Artinya, lu ga baca Quran, hadis dan tafsir. Hehe... gimana kalo bapak lu piara bini lagi, dan/atau ngecerai ibu lu dgn 3 kata doang? Itu semua sangat Islami.
>________________________________ > From: arra_s <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 11:02 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Islam didiskriminasi di Inggris, hehehe... > > > > >gw belajar agama dari orang tua sendiri, makanya hasilnya optimal.. >lu tahu kenapa hasilnya maksimal? >karena ortu gw mengajar anak anak nya sendiri dengan kasih sayang, tanpa >pamrih, tidak munafik dan dengan cerdas... > >makanya melihat isi copas dan komentar elu di milis ini, gw langsung tahu >kalau elu itu dungu.. >entah darimana dimulainya kedunguan ini, apakah dari ustad yg ngajarin elu, >berarti elu menjadi dungu kuadrat.. atau lebih ke atas lagi, gurunya si >ustad, berarti elu menjadi dungu pangkat 3.. > >tapi gw lebih yakin, kalau kedunguan ini dimulai dari elu.. karena sara >agama, 20 tahun yg lalu belum kedengaran.. > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Lu pasti ga pernah belajar Islam, mungkin ustad lu anggap lu ini sbg cewek >> cuma punya 1/2 akal alias idiot, ga ada guna ngajarin lu. >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@...> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:31 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Islam didiskriminasi di Inggris, hehehe... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >hari gini lu masih ngais ngais mahar? >> >hehehe.. percuma dah lu hidup di jaman internet.. >> >jaman dimana urusan duit, jadi semakin mudah.. >> > >> >cewek yg lu sebut di bawah ini nggak pernah mikirin ttg mahar dan >> >pesangon.. malah baru denger klo cerai ada pesangon.. >> >PHK kali yg ada pesangon nya.. >> > >> >lu punya bini ngga Tem.. kalo punya hehe pastinya lu sering di kibulin si >> >bini.. karena lu ngga tahu kan... kalau >> >perempuan jaman sekarang punya hobby baru.. nge cek saldo.. >> > >> >kalo nasib beda, cara mikir juga beda Tem.. >> >makanya jualan lu ngga laku disini.. >> >nasib beda sih.. >> > >> > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Tentunya si arra_s sbg orang Islam yg baik akan bilang bhw Islam >> >> didiskriminasi di Inggris krn ga bisa make hukum syariat dlm kasus >> >> perceraian ini di mana cewek yg dicerai diputuskan hrs dpt uangdr bekas >> >> suaminya. >> >> >> >> Nurut Islam, cewek yg dicerai itu udah dihormati dgn boleh tetap memiliki >> >> mahar yg didptnya krn udah diembat oleh bekas suaminya, paling2 dikasih >> >> pesangon sekedarnya unt hiburan. Beda dgn hukum kafir laknatuloh yg >> >> mengharuskan si cewek dpt harta bekas suaminya. >> >> >> >> Hukum harta gono gini ini jg diterapkan di Indonesia, makanya pejihad2 >> >> Islam mau ngeganti hukum bejad ini dgn hukum auloh spy cewek2 bisa lbh >> >> terhormat dgn kalo dicerai pake 3 kata, si cewek ga dpt apa2 lagi selain >> >> apa yg jadi haknya, yaitu mahar. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179041/You-use-sharia-law-divorce-deal-Muslim-hospital-consultant-told-pay-ex-wife-maintenance-despite-claims-owes-Islamic-rules.html#ixzz21hmJea7Z >> >> >> >> >> >> You can't use sharia law in divorce deal: Muslim hospital consultant told >> >> to pay ex-wife maintenance despite claims he owes her nothing >> >> under Islamic rules >> >> >> >> * Dr Zaid Al-Saffar told he must follow 'the rule in this country' >> >> >> >> * Ordered to pay £60,000 to his former wife, academic Hanan Al-Saffar >> >> * He felt the payments were illegitimate according to Islamic culture >> >> * Claims: 'Family law in this country is biased against Muslim >> >> people’ >> >> By Steve Doughty >> >> PUBLISHED: 23:04 GMT, 25 July 2012 | UPDATED: 23:58 GMT, 25 July 2012 >> >> >> >> Read more: >> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179041/You-use-sharia-law-divorce-deal-Muslim-hospital-consultant-told-pay-ex-wife-maintenance-despite-claims-owes-Islamic-rules.html#ixzz21lCCLGOG >> >> >> >> >> >> A Muslim hospital consultant was told yesterday that he must pay his >> >> ex-wife maintenance even though under >> >> Islamic rules he believes he owes her nothing. >> >> >> >> A judge told Dr Zaid Al-Saffar that he must follow ‘the rule in >> >> this country’ and share his money. >> >> >> >> >> >> The Appeal Court decision means Dr Al-Saffar must pay £60,000 to his >> >> former wife, academic Hanan Al-Saffar. >> >> >> >> >> >> The ruling sounded a warning to Muslim couples who believe their >> >> marriages >> >> are ordered according to sharia law and agree to be bound by Islamic >> >> courts. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lord Justice Ward told Dr Al-Saffar: ‘The rule in this country is >> >> that you share and the starting point is equal division. >> >> >> >> >> >> ‘You came out of the marriage without having made your wife any >> >> substantial capital payment.’ >> >> >> >> >> >> He added: ‘Life is sometimes hard; do not be consumed with >> >> bitterness.’ >> >> >> >> >> >> But Dr Al-Saffar said after the case: ‘By playing the system and >> >> pretending to be a victim she got everything, which I think is totally >> >> unfair. >> >> >> >> ‘Family law in this country is biased against Muslim >> >> people.’ >> >> >> >> >> >> The consultant rheumatologist at Scarborough Hospital in North Yorkshire, >> >> who is also the head of the Islamic Society in the resort town, was >> >> married for eight years, and the couple had two children. >> >> >> >> >> >> The marriage was formalised following the Islamic tradition of Mahr, >> >> under which the groom pays a gift to his bride. >> >> >> >> >> >> Because of this, his wife had signed away her share of the >> >> couple’s home in Belvedere Road, in Scarborough. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr Al-Saffar also assumed he had no >> >> obligation to make maintenance payments, and that, following Islamic >> >> practice, his former wife’s family would support her. >> >> >> >> However, after the marriage fell apart in 2008, a county court judge >> >> ordered him to pay £60,000 to his wife in a hearing to settle the >> >> legal terms of >> >> their break-up. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr Al-Saffar made payments for only four months but then contested the >> >> decision. >> >> >> >> In >> >> the Appeal Court, he told Lord Justice Ward that he had stopped paying >> >> because he had heard his former wife had inherited £250,000 from her >> >> father and had become ‘very, very well off’. >> >> >> >> Dr Al-Saffar, who represented himself, told the court: ‘I have >> >> nothing but respect for the court’s order, but I only stopped >> >> paying because all >> >> her family were telling me she’s got millions. She doesn’t >> >> need it.’ >> >> >> >> But the judge said the doctor had >> >> been determined not to pay because ‘he felt the payments were >> >> illegitimate or illegal according to Islamic culture’. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lord Justice Ward said: ‘The husband has kept the whole of the >> >> capital in >> >> the marital home and the wife has not received any of it. >> >> >> >> ‘In those circumstances the order for spousal maintenance was a >> >> perfectly proper and fair order to make.’ >> >> >> >> >> >> The judge added: ‘The husband has to try to understand that >> >> inherited >> >> wealth is not available for distribution, especially when it comes in >> >> after or shortly before the breakdown of the marriage. >> >> >> >> >> >> 'That would not reduce the husband’s obligation to make a proper >> >> contribution to his wife.’ >> >> >> >> >> >> ‘I must dismiss this application,’ Lord Justice Ward said. >> >> >> >> >> >> An unknown number of Muslim couples take their family disputes to sharia >> >> tribunals, usually run under the umbrella of local mosques. There are >> >> said to be around 85 operating in Britain. >> >> >> >> >> >> They operate voluntarily, but critics say women may be disadvantaged if >> >> they agree to accept Islamic rules. >> >> >> >> >> >> At present, if a sharia court settles a marriage dispute, an official law >> >> court has to approve the arrangement before the divorce is finalised. >> >> >> >> >> >> The judge must decide whether it is reasonable and ensure neither party >> >> is disadvantaged. >> >> >> >> >> >> But agreements are submitted to the family court on a form just two pages >> >> long. The couple do not need to attend court. >> >> >> >> >> >> The great majority are approved and critics say this process can amount >> >> to no more than rubber-stamping. >> >> >> >> >> >> Four years ago Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams caused >> >> controversy when he said that full acceptance of sharia courts >> >> ‘seems unavoidable’. >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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