Kalau alasan nya kayak gini artinya selamet dah dikangkangin 350 tahun...........oleh VOC
makan dah pencarian elu yang bikin elu jadi ngaco selamanya. ________________________________ From: Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat mikir -sambungan.) Pinpin yang memang nggak punya otak yang bisa dipakai untuk berfikir dan yang sudah sedeng itu tentu saja tidak bisa membedakan disatu pihak komputer yang TIDAK hanya dibikin untuk orang kafir dan disamping itu sungguh bisa bermanfaat untuk dipakai dan, dilain pihak, agama najis Islam yang HANYA disusun orang Aab primitif untuk penduduk Makakan dan daerah sekitarnya yagn berbahasa Arab dan yang ajarannya duh dungunya, duh nistanya, duh biadabnya, duh kejamnya, duh kejinya duh zalimnya, duh ganasnya duh mengerikannnya.... --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > so what gitu lho kalau Islam datang dari Arab ? > > Apa kita harus menolak komputer dan microsoft hanya gara2 datang dari barat ? > > Please deh ah > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > Omongan Pinpin yang sudah gila dan dia, tentu saja, tidak bisa membantah > > apa yang saya katakan... > > > > Lalu dia pindah gawang.. > > > > Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya tulis dan tidak bisa dibantahnya itu: > > > > Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat mikir ... > > > > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf itu > > dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > > > (Sambungan) > > > > Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab primitif > > untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan > > untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing punya bahasanya > > sendiri-sendiri. > > > > - > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama Islam. > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi nge > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. > > > > > > Paradox Plik ... > > > > > > Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri gagal > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih londo > > > dari londo. > > > > > > Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, puasa. > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua > > > kalimah syahadat. > > > > > > Nah elo ? > > > Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > > > > > > kasihan. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab > > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa > > > > Arab, jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang > > > > masing-masing punya bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf > > > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah > > > > > sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: > > > > > > >The Sun never sets here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan > > > > > > >bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di > > > > > > >daerah anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang > > > > > > >lain seiring berjalannya matahari ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari > > > > > > >tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan > > > > > > >klausul bahwa Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo tem ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Kasihan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy ga > > > > > > >> mati waktu puasa di musim panas. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar sampe > > > > > > >> matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" > > > > > > >> spy ga mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk > > > > > > >> akal sehat dan konyol, bukan? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah konyol, > > > > > > >> atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg > > > > > > >> biarpun jelas2 mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh > > > > > > >> ngejilat pantat auloh? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu banyaknya > > > > > > >> orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never sets > > > > > > >> here > > > > > > >> By AP > > > > > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is neither > > > > > > >> dawn nor dusk? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of Muslims > > > > > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip of > > > > > > >> Europe, > > > > > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this time of > > > > > > >> year. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the Arctic > > > > > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. and > > > > > > >> sets > > > > > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan could be > > > > > > >> required > > > > > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the summer > > > > > > >> solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who came > > > > > > >> to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the nearest > > > > > > >> Muslim country: Turkey. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's not > > > > > > >> bad," > > > > > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization helping > > > > > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a little > > > > > > >> over 100 > > > > > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which is > > > > > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find their way > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, "after > > > > > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the > > > > > > >> fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, > > > > > > >> however, > > > > > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, even > > > > > > >> up north. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on going on > > > > > > >> for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic > > > > > > >> Association > > > > > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is > > > > > > >> possible to > > > > > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of Sweden's > > > > > > >> Muslims." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash in > > > > > > >> 24-hour > > > > > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city in > > > > > > >> Sweden > > > > > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that it's > > > > > > >> permitted > > > > > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives came > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She opts to > > > > > > >> observe > > > > > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking the > > > > > > >> fast in > > > > > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until the > > > > > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal around 5 > > > > > > >> p.m. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking the fast > > > > > > >> can > > > > > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed to eat > > > > > > >> your > > > > > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old said. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters â€" aged 11 and 6 > > > > > > >> â€" help > > > > > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled with tuna > > > > > > >> in > > > > > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while one > > > > > > >> girl > > > > > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken broth and > > > > > > >> eat > > > > > > >> with their fingers â€" traditional Sudanese style â€" a > > > > > > >> few hours later. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack of > > > > > > >> "Muslim > > > > > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She sometimes has > > > > > > >> to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional > > > > > > >> ingredients to come > > > > > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi at > > > > > > >> this > > > > > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's a grey > > > > > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over the > > > > > > >> northern > > > > > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the supposed > > > > > > >> dead of night. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar calendar, > > > > > > >> moving > > > > > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will be no > > > > > > >> sunset > > > > > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 minutes > > > > > > >> for us to break the fast." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long fasting > > > > > > >> hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty often. No > > > > > > >> matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge for water." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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