Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi orang Minang, krn 
semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya Islam yg bejad.




>________________________________
> From: pinpinyuliansyah <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM
>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat 
>mikir -sambungan.)
> 
>
>  
>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama Islam. Minang 
>bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi nge londo kayak 
>gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya.
>
>Paradox Plik ...
>
>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri gagal tetep 
>jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih londo dari londo.
>
>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, puasa. Dia 
>bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua kalimah 
>syahadat.
>
>Nah elo ?
>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah.
>
>kasihan.
>
>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab primitif 
>> untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan 
>> untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing punya bahasanya 
>> sendiri-sendiri.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf itu 
>> > dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya 
>> > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder...
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir".
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > >________________________________
>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
>> > > >To: [email protected] 
>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM
>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The 
>> > > >Sun never sets here
>> > > > 
>> > > >
>> > > >  
>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan bersahutan 
>> > > >tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di daerah anu, 
>> > > >maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring 
>> > > >berjalannya matahari ...
>> > > >
>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari tenggelam, 
>> > > >kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan klausul bahwa Islam 
>> > > >diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir.
>> > > >
>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo tem ...
>> > > >
>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ?
>> > > >
>> > > >Kasihan.
>> > > >
>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy ga mati 
>> > > >> waktu puasa di musim panas.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar sampe 
>> > > >> matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" spy 
>> > > >> ga mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal 
>> > > >> sehat dan konyol, bukan?
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah konyol, atau 
>> > > >> orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun jelas2 
>> > > >> mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat 
>> > > >> auloh?
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu banyaknya orang 
>> > > >> goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never sets here
>> > > >> By AP
>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012
>> > > >> 
>> > > >>  How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is neither dawn 
>> > > >> nor dusk?
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of Muslims 
>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip of Europe, 
>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this time of year.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the Arctic 
>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. and sets 
>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan could be 
>> > > >> required 
>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the summer solstice 
>> > > >> in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who came to 
>> > > >> Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the nearest Muslim 
>> > > >> country: Turkey.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's not bad," 
>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization helping 
>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a little over 
>> > > >> 100 
>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which is 
>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find their way to 
>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, "after 
>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the fasting 
>> > > >> hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, however, 
>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, even up 
>> > > >> north.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on going on for a 
>> > > >> few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic 
>> > > >> Association 
>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is possible 
>> > > >> to 
>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of Sweden's Muslims."
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash in 24-hour 
>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city in Sweden 
>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that it's 
>> > > >> permitted 
>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives came to 
>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She opts to 
>> > > >> observe 
>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking the fast 
>> > > >> in 
>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until the 
>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal around 5 p.m.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking the fast can 
>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed to eat your 
>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old said.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters â€" aged 11 and 6 â€" 
>> > > >> help 
>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled with tuna in 
>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while one girl 
>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken broth and eat 
>> > > >> with their fingers â€" traditional Sudanese style â€" a few 
>> > > >> hours later.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack of "Muslim 
>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She sometimes has to 
>> > > >> wait several days for halal meat and other traditional ingredients to 
>> > > >> come 
>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi at this 
>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's a grey 
>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over the 
>> > > >> northern 
>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the supposed dead 
>> > > >> of night.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar calendar, moving 
>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will be no 
>> > > >> sunset 
>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 minutes for us 
>> > > >> to break the fast."
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long fasting hours 
>> > > >> in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty often. No 
>> > > >> matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge for water."
>> > > >> 
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