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dikangkangin VOC. ________________________________ From: pinpinyuliansyah <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat mikir -sambungan.) so what gitu lho kalau Islam datang dari Arab ? Apa kita harus menolak komputer dan microsoft hanya gara2 datang dari barat ? Please deh ah --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Omongan Pinpin yang sudah gila dan dia, tentu saja, tidak bisa membantah apa > yang saya katakan... > > Lalu dia pindah gawang.. > > Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya tulis dan tidak bisa dibantahnya itu: > > Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat mikir ... > > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf itu > dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang > berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > (Sambungan) > > Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab primitif > untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan > untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing punya bahasanya > sendiri-sendiri. > > - > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama Islam. > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi nge > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. > > > > Paradox Plik ... > > > > Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri gagal tetep > > jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih londo dari > > londo. > > > > Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, puasa. Dia > > bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua kalimah > > syahadat. > > > > Nah elo ? > > Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > > > > kasihan. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab primitif > > > untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab, jadi > > > bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing punya > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf > > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah > > > > sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: > > > > > >The Sun never sets here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan bersahutan > > > > > >tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di daerah anu, > > > > > >maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring > > > > > >berjalannya matahari ... > > > > > > > > > > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari > > > > > >tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan > > > > > >klausul bahwa Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. > > > > > > > > > > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo tem ... > > > > > > > > > > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > > > > > > > > > > > >Kasihan. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy ga mati > > > > > >> waktu puasa di musim panas. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar sampe > > > > > >> matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" > > > > > >> spy ga mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk > > > > > >> akal sehat dan konyol, bukan? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah konyol, atau > > > > > >> orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun > > > > > >> jelas2 mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat > > > > > >> pantat auloh? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu banyaknya > > > > > >> orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never sets here > > > > > >> By AP > > > > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is neither > > > > > >> dawn nor dusk? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of Muslims > > > > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip of > > > > > >> Europe, > > > > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this time of > > > > > >> year. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the Arctic > > > > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. and > > > > > >> sets > > > > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan could be > > > > > >> required > > > > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the summer > > > > > >> solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who came to > > > > > >> Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the nearest > > > > > >> Muslim country: Turkey. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's not > > > > > >> bad," > > > > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization helping > > > > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a little > > > > > >> over 100 > > > > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which is > > > > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find their way to > > > > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, "after > > > > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the fasting > > > > > >> hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, however, > > > > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, even up > > > > > >> north. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on going on > > > > > >> for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic > > > > > >> Association > > > > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is > > > > > >> possible to > > > > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of Sweden's > > > > > >> Muslims." > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash in > > > > > >> 24-hour > > > > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city in > > > > > >> Sweden > > > > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that it's > > > > > >> permitted > > > > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives came to > > > > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She opts to > > > > > >> observe > > > > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking the > > > > > >> fast in > > > > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until the > > > > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal around 5 > > > > > >> p.m. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking the fast > > > > > >> can > > > > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed to eat > > > > > >> your > > > > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old said. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters â€" aged 11 and 6 > > > > > >> â€" help > > > > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled with tuna > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while one > > > > > >> girl > > > > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken broth and > > > > > >> eat > > > > > >> with their fingers â€" traditional Sudanese style â€" a few > > > > > >> hours later. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack of > > > > > >> "Muslim > > > > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She sometimes has > > > > > >> to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional > > > > > >> ingredients to come > > > > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi at this > > > > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's a grey > > > > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over the > > > > > >> northern > > > > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the supposed > > > > > >> dead of night. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar calendar, > > > > > >> moving > > > > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will be no > > > > > >> sunset > > > > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 minutes for > > > > > >> us to break the fast." > > > > > >> > > > > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long fasting > > > > > >> hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty often. No > > > > > >> matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge for water." > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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