Plik ... Apa nddak bosen plik ngomong itu2 mlulu ? Ih, Kok bisa sih ?
--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Jadi... > > Pinpin yang memang nggak punya otak yang bisa dipakai untuk berfikir dan yang > sudah sedeng itu tentu saja tidak bisa membedakan disatu pihak komputer yang > TIDAK hanya dibikin untuk orang kafir dan disamping itu sungguh bisa > bermanfaat untuk dipakai dan, dilain pihak, agama najis Islam yang HANYA > disusun orang Aab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yagn > berbahasa Arab dan yang ajarannya duh dungunya, duh nistanya, duh biadabnya, > duh kejamnya, duh kejinya duh zalimnya, duh ganasnya duh mengerikannnya.... > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > Ssstt.... brisik Ah ! Orang lagi asyik nonton juga ah. Udah diem. Brisik ! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Pinpin yang memang nggak punya otak yang bisa dipakai untuk berfikir dan > > > yang sudah sedeng itu tentu saja tidak bisa membedakan disatu pihak > > > komputer yang TIDAK hanya dibikin untuk orang kafir dan disamping itu > > > sungguh bisa bermanfaat untuk dipakai dan, dilain pihak, agama najis > > > Islam yang HANYA disusun orang Aab primitif untuk penduduk Makakan dan > > > daerah sekitarnya yagn berbahasa Arab dan yang ajarannya duh dungunya, > > > duh nistanya, duh biadabnya, duh kejamnya, duh kejinya duh zalimnya, duh > > > ganasnya duh mengerikannnya.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > so what gitu lho kalau Islam datang dari Arab ? > > > > > > > > Apa kita harus menolak komputer dan microsoft hanya gara2 datang dari > > > > barat ? > > > > > > > > Please deh ah > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Omongan Pinpin yang sudah gila dan dia, tentu saja, tidak bisa > > > > > membantah apa yang saya katakan... > > > > > > > > > > Lalu dia pindah gawang.. > > > > > > > > > > Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya tulis dan tidak bisa > > > > > dibantahnya itu: > > > > > > > > > > Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat mikir ... > > > > > > > > > > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf > > > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah > > > > > sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > > > > > > > > > (Sambungan) > > > > > > > > > > Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab > > > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa > > > > > Arab, jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang > > > > > masing-masing punya bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama > > > > > > Islam. Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang > > > > > > yang jadi nge londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar > > > > > > budayanya. > > > > > > > > > > > > Paradox Plik ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri > > > > > > gagal tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah > > > > > > lebih londo dari londo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, > > > > > > puasa. Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan > > > > > > mengucapkan dua kalimah syahadat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah elo ? > > > > > > Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > > > > > > > > > > > > kasihan. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab > > > > > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang > > > > > > > berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di > > > > > > > Indonesia yang masing-masing punya bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di > > > > > > > > al-Musaf itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah > > > > > > > > dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu > > > > > > > > bumi itu bunder... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in > > > > > > > > > >Ramadan: The Sun never sets here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan > > > > > > > > > >bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti > > > > > > > > > >berkumandang di daerah anu, maka adzan subuh mulai > > > > > > > > > >berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring berjalannya > > > > > > > > > >matahari ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari > > > > > > > > > >tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan > > > > > > > > > >dengan klausul bahwa Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang > > > > > > > > > >berpikir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo > > > > > > > > > >tem ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Kasihan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy > > > > > > > > > >> ga mati waktu puasa di musim panas. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar > > > > > > > > > >> sampe matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make > > > > > > > > > >> "akal sehat" spy ga mati, berarti perintah auloh itu > > > > > > > > > >> adalah perintah ga masuk akal sehat dan konyol, bukan? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah > > > > > > > > > >> konyol, atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh > > > > > > > > > >> itu shg biarpun jelas2 mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, > > > > > > > > > >> tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat auloh? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu > > > > > > > > > >> banyaknya orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never > > > > > > > > > >> sets here > > > > > > > > > >> By AP > > > > > > > > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is > > > > > > > > > >> neither dawn nor dusk? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of > > > > > > > > > >> Muslims > > > > > > > > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip > > > > > > > > > >> of Europe, > > > > > > > > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this > > > > > > > > > >> time of year. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the > > > > > > > > > >> Arctic > > > > > > > > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > >> and sets > > > > > > > > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan > > > > > > > > > >> could be required > > > > > > > > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the > > > > > > > > > >> summer solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at > > > > > > > > > >> all. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who > > > > > > > > > >> came to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the > > > > > > > > > >> nearest Muslim country: Turkey. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's > > > > > > > > > >> not bad," > > > > > > > > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization > > > > > > > > > >> helping > > > > > > > > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a > > > > > > > > > >> little over 100 > > > > > > > > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and > > > > > > > > > >> Afghanistan. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which > > > > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > > > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find > > > > > > > > > >> their way to > > > > > > > > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, > > > > > > > > > >> "after > > > > > > > > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the > > > > > > > > > >> fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, > > > > > > > > > >> however, > > > > > > > > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, > > > > > > > > > >> even up north. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on > > > > > > > > > >> going on for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman > > > > > > > > > >> of the Islamic Association > > > > > > > > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is > > > > > > > > > >> possible to > > > > > > > > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of > > > > > > > > > >> Sweden's Muslims." > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash > > > > > > > > > >> in 24-hour > > > > > > > > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city > > > > > > > > > >> in Sweden > > > > > > > > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that > > > > > > > > > >> it's permitted > > > > > > > > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives > > > > > > > > > >> came to > > > > > > > > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She > > > > > > > > > >> opts to observe > > > > > > > > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking > > > > > > > > > >> the fast in > > > > > > > > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until > > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal > > > > > > > > > >> around 5 p.m. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking > > > > > > > > > >> the fast can > > > > > > > > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed > > > > > > > > > >> to eat your > > > > > > > > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old > > > > > > > > > >> said. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters ââ¬" aged 11 > > > > > > > > > >> and 6 ââ¬" help > > > > > > > > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled > > > > > > > > > >> with tuna in > > > > > > > > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while > > > > > > > > > >> one girl > > > > > > > > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken > > > > > > > > > >> broth and eat > > > > > > > > > >> with their fingers ââ¬" traditional Sudanese style > > > > > > > > > >> ââ¬" a few hours later. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack > > > > > > > > > >> of "Muslim > > > > > > > > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She > > > > > > > > > >> sometimes has to wait several days for halal meat and > > > > > > > > > >> other traditional ingredients to come > > > > > > > > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi > > > > > > > > > >> at this > > > > > > > > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's > > > > > > > > > >> a grey > > > > > > > > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over > > > > > > > > > >> the northern > > > > > > > > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the > > > > > > > > > >> supposed dead of night. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar > > > > > > > > > >> calendar, moving > > > > > > > > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will > > > > > > > > > >> be no sunset > > > > > > > > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 > > > > > > > > > >> minutes for us to break the fast." > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long > > > > > > > > > >> fasting hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool > > > > > > > > > >> temperatures. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty > > > > > > > > > >> often. No matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge > > > > > > > > > >> for water." > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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