Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?"
>________________________________ > From: arra_s <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:38 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (safin _blanc ngaco lagi....) > > > > >bagi Uplik.. Hanya Item yayang yang selalu benar.. dan tidak bisa dibantah.. > >terharu juga melihat hubungan 2 orang manusia yg sangat mendalam ini.. hanya >ada aku dan kamu, demikian mabuk nya 2 org ini.. kebenaran milik kita berdua.. >batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item abu.. > >sungguh terharu.. > >--- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@...> wrote: >> >> .. demi masa .. (waktu yg semakin habis, count down, tik tak tik tak ... ) >> .. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar dalam kerugian .. >> .. kecuali orang yg beriman dan beramal saleh .. >> .. dan nasehat menasehati supaya menaati kebenaran dan nasehat menasehati >> dalam kesabaran .. >> .. >> .. qs .. >> .. >> .. >> >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...>wrote: >> >> > ** >> > >> > >> > >> > safin _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing tentu saja nggak bisa membantah apa >> > yagn ditulis item abu.. >> > >> > Lantas seperti biasanya, dia ngaco lagi dengan mengirim bualan orang Arab >> > primitif.. >> > >> > Saya kutip apa yang ditulis "item abu" yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh safin >> > _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing itu: >> > >> > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan ngebantai di >> > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" >> > >> > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: >> > > >> > > .. om, hendaknya bersabar sambil simak ini >> > > >> > > .. dan tidaklah kami mengutus rasul-rasul melainkan sebagai pembawa >> > berita >> > > gembira dan sebagai pemberi peringatan; tetapi orang-orang kafir >> > membantah >> > > dengan yg bathil agar dengan demikian mereka dapat melenyapkan yang hak >> > dan >> > > mereka menganggap ayat-ayat kami dan peringatan-peringatan terhadap >> > mereka >> > > sebagai olok-olokan.. >> > > .. qs 18:56 .. >> > > .. >> > > .. demikianlah, balasan kepada mereka itu ialah neraka, disebabkan >> > > kekafiran mereka dan disebabkan mereka menjadikan ayat-ayat ku dan >> > > rasul-rasul ku sebagai olok-olok..qs 18:106 .. >> > > .. >> > > .. >> > > .. selamat berpuasa .. >> > > .. >> > > >> > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>wrote: >> > > >> > > > ** >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Jangan biasain omong kosong kalau mau jadi Missionaries Yth >> > > > >> > > > jihad apaan? >> > > > ngerampok ngebantai apaan? >> > > > otak elu isinya sampah! >> > > > dari sebab itu omongan&mulut lu bau. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________ >> > > > From: item abu <itemabu@> >> > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM >> > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> > otak >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan >> > ngebantai di >> > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? >> > > > >> > > > >________________________________ >> > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> > otak >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >Oh begitu ya >> > > > >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? >> > > > > >> > > > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu juga bejad? >> > > > >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? >> > > > >larang berjudi juga bejad? >> > > > >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. >> > > > > >> > > > >________________________________ >> > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> > otak >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi orang >> > Minang, >> > > > krn semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya Islam yg >> > bejad. >> > > > > >> > > > >>________________________________ >> > > > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> >> > > > >>To: [email protected] >> > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM >> > > > >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama Islam. >> > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi nge >> > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. >> > > > >> >> > > > >>Paradox Plik ... >> > > > >> >> > > > >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri gagal >> > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih >> > londo >> > > > dari londo. >> > > > >> >> > > > >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, >> > puasa. >> > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua >> > > > kalimah syahadat. >> > > > >> >> > > > >>Nah elo ? >> > > > >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. >> > > > >> >> > > > >>kasihan. >> > > > >> >> > > > >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab >> > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa >> > Arab, >> > > > jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing >> > punya >> > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di >> > al-Musaf >> > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah >> > sekitarnya >> > > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >________________________________ >> > > > >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> >> > > > >>> > > >To: [email protected] >> > > > >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM >> > > > >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in >> > > > Ramadan: The Sun never sets here >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan >> > > > bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di >> > daerah >> > > > anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring >> > > > berjalannya matahari ... >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari >> > > > tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan klausul >> > bahwa >> > > > Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo tem >> > ... >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy >> > ga >> > > > mati waktu puasa di musim panas. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar >> > sampe >> > > > matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" spy ga >> > > > mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal sehat >> > dan >> > > > konyol, bukan? >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah konyol, >> > > > atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun >> > jelas2 >> > > > mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat auloh? >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu >> > banyaknya >> > > > orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >> > http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never >> > sets >> > > > here >> > > > >>> > > >> By AP >> > > > >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is >> > neither >> > > > dawn nor dusk? >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of Muslims >> > > > >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip of >> > > > Europe, >> > > > >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this >> > time of >> > > > year. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the >> > Arctic >> > > > >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. >> > and >> > > > sets >> > > > >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan could >> > be >> > > > required >> > > > >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the summer >> > > > solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who >> > came >> > > > to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the >> > nearest >> > > > Muslim country: Turkey. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's >> > not >> > > > bad," >> > > > >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization >> > > > helping >> > > > >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a >> > little >> > > > over 100 >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and >> > Afghanistan. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which >> > is >> > > > >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find their >> > way >> > > > to >> > > > >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, "after >> > > > >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the >> > > > fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, >> > > > however, >> > > > >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, >> > even >> > > > up north. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on >> > going on >> > > > for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic >> > > > Association >> > > > >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is >> > > > possible to >> > > > >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of Sweden's >> > > > Muslims." >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash in >> > > > 24-hour >> > > > >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city >> > in >> > > > Sweden >> > > > >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that it's >> > > > permitted >> > > > >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives >> > came >> > > > to >> > > > >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She opts >> > to >> > > > observe >> > > > >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking >> > the >> > > > fast in >> > > > >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until the >> > > > >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal >> > around 5 >> > > > p.m. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking the >> > > > fast can >> > > > >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed to >> > eat >> > > > your >> > > > >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old >> > said. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters â€" aged 11 and >> > 6 >> > > > â€" help >> > > > >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled with >> > > > tuna in >> > > > >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while >> > one >> > > > girl >> > > > >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken broth >> > > > and eat >> > > > >>> > > >> with their fingers â€" traditional Sudanese style â€" >> > a >> > > > few hours later. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack of >> > > > "Muslim >> > > > >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She sometimes >> > > > has to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional >> > ingredients >> > > > to come >> > > > >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi at >> > > > this >> > > > >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's a >> > > > grey >> > > > >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over >> > the >> > > > northern >> > > > >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the >> > > > supposed dead of night. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar calendar, >> > > > moving >> > > > >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will >> > be >> > > > no sunset >> > > > >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 >> > minutes >> > > > for us to break the fast." >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long >> > fasting >> > > > hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty >> > often. 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