.. ya, sungguh mengharukan .. .. hampir menitikkan air mata aku dibuatnya .. ;-) .. .. .. dan ingatlah ketika mereka berbantah-bantahan dalam neraka (note: mungkin terbawa kebiasaan selama didunia), maka orang-orang yg lemah berkata kepada orang-orang yg menyombongkan diri: "sesungguhnya kami ini adalah pengikut-pengikutmu, maka dapatkah kamu menghindarkan dari kami sebagian adzab api neraka?" .. .. qs .. .. ..
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:38 AM, arra_s <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > > bagi Uplik.. Hanya Item yayang yang selalu benar.. dan tidak bisa > dibantah.. > > terharu juga melihat hubungan 2 orang manusia yg sangat mendalam ini.. > hanya ada aku dan kamu, demikian mabuk nya 2 org ini.. kebenaran milik kita > berdua.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item > abu.. > > sungguh terharu.. > > > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@...> wrote: > > > > .. demi masa .. (waktu yg semakin habis, count down, tik tak tik tak ... > ) > > .. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar dalam kerugian .. > > .. kecuali orang yg beriman dan beramal saleh .. > > .. dan nasehat menasehati supaya menaati kebenaran dan nasehat menasehati > > dalam kesabaran .. > > .. > > .. qs .. > > .. > > .. > > > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@ > ...>wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > safin _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing tentu saja nggak bisa membantah > apa > > > yagn ditulis item abu.. > > > > > > Lantas seperti biasanya, dia ngaco lagi dengan mengirim bualan orang > Arab > > > primitif.. > > > > > > Saya kutip apa yang ditulis "item abu" yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh > safin > > > _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing itu: > > > > > > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > ngebantai di > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > > > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > .. om, hendaknya bersabar sambil simak ini > > > > > > > > .. dan tidaklah kami mengutus rasul-rasul melainkan sebagai pembawa > > > berita > > > > gembira dan sebagai pemberi peringatan; tetapi orang-orang kafir > > > membantah > > > > dengan yg bathil agar dengan demikian mereka dapat melenyapkan yang > hak > > > dan > > > > mereka menganggap ayat-ayat kami dan peringatan-peringatan terhadap > > > mereka > > > > sebagai olok-olokan.. > > > > .. qs 18:56 .. > > > > .. > > > > .. demikianlah, balasan kepada mereka itu ialah neraka, disebabkan > > > > kekafiran mereka dan disebabkan mereka menjadikan ayat-ayat ku dan > > > > rasul-rasul ku sebagai olok-olok..qs 18:106 .. > > > > .. > > > > .. > > > > .. selamat berpuasa .. > > > > .. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jangan biasain omong kosong kalau mau jadi Missionaries Yth > > > > > > > > > > jihad apaan? > > > > > ngerampok ngebantai apaan? > > > > > otak elu isinya sampah! > > > > > dari sebab itu omongan&mulut lu bau. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya > > > otak > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > ngebantai di > > > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > > > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak > punya > > > otak > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh begitu ya > > > > > >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? > > > > > > > > > > > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu juga bejad? > > > > > >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? > > > > > >larang berjudi juga bejad? > > > > > >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak > punya > > > otak > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi orang > > > Minang, > > > > > krn semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya Islam > yg > > > bejad. > > > > > > > > > > > >>________________________________ > > > > > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > >>To: [email protected] > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM > > > > > >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya > otak > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama > Islam. > > > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang > jadi nge > > > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Paradox Plik ... > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri > gagal > > > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih > > > londo > > > > > dari londo. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, > > > puasa. > > > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan > dua > > > > > kalimah syahadat. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Nah elo ? > > > > > >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>kasihan. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang > Arab > > > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa > > > Arab, > > > > > jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang > masing-masing > > > punya > > > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di > > > al-Musaf > > > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah > > > sekitarnya > > > > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg > "berpikir". > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > >________________________________ > > > > > >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > >>> > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > > > > > >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in > > > > > Ramadan: The Sun never sets here > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan > > > > > bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di > > > daerah > > > > > anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain > seiring > > > > > berjalannya matahari ... > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai > matahari > > > > > tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan > klausul > > > bahwa > > > > > Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo > tem > > > ... > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" > spy > > > ga > > > > > mati waktu puasa di musim panas. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar > > > sampe > > > > > matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" > spy ga > > > > > mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal > sehat > > > dan > > > > > konyol, bukan? > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah > konyol, > > > > > atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun > > > jelas2 > > > > > mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat > auloh? > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu > > > banyaknya > > > > > orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never > > > sets > > > > > here > > > > > >>> > > >> By AP > > > > > >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is > > > neither > > > > > dawn nor dusk? > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of > Muslims > > > > > >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern > tip of > > > > > Europe, > > > > > >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this > > > time of > > > > > year. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the > > > Arctic > > > > > >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 > a.m. > > > and > > > > > sets > > > > > >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan > could > > > be > > > > > required > > > > > >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the > summer > > > > > solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, > who > > > came > > > > > to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the > > > nearest > > > > > Muslim country: Turkey. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, > it's > > > not > > > > > bad," > > > > > >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization > > > > > helping > > > > > >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a > > > little > > > > > over 100 > > > > > >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and > > > Afghanistan. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, > which > > > is > > > > > >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find > their > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, > "after > > > > > >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow > the > > > > > fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and > Research, > > > > > however, > > > > > >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and > sunset, > > > even > > > > > up north. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on > > > going on > > > > > for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic > > > > > Association > > > > > >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it > is > > > > > possible to > > > > > >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of > Sweden's > > > > > Muslims." > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are > awash in > > > > > 24-hour > > > > > >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest > city > > > in > > > > > Sweden > > > > > >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that > it's > > > > > permitted > > > > > >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine > relatives > > > came > > > > > to > > > > > >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She > opts > > > to > > > > > observe > > > > > >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before > breaking > > > the > > > > > fast in > > > > > >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works > until the > > > > > >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal > > > around 5 > > > > > p.m. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking > the > > > > > fast can > > > > > >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're > supposed to > > > eat > > > > > your > > > > > >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old > > > said. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters ââ¬" aged 11 > and > > > 6 > > > > > ââ¬" help > > > > > >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled > with > > > > > tuna in > > > > > >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove > while > > > one > > > > > girl > > > > > >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken > broth > > > > > and eat > > > > > >>> > > >> with their fingers ââ¬" traditional Sudanese style > ââ¬" > > > a > > > > > few hours later. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the > lack of > > > > > "Muslim > > > > > >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She > sometimes > > > > > has to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional > > > ingredients > > > > > to come > > > > > >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the > south. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in > Rovaniemi at > > > > > this > > > > > >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, > there's a > > > > > grey > > > > > >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching > over > > > the > > > > > northern > > > > > >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the > > > > > supposed dead of night. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar > calendar, > > > > > moving > > > > > >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there > will > > > be > > > > > no sunset > > > > > >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 > > > minutes > > > > > for us to break the fast." > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long > > > fasting > > > > > hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty > > > often. 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