safin _blanc ngaco lagi.... Bak anjing yang kejepit buntut dia kaing-kaing..
--- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@...> wrote: > > .. > .. ya jelas, kafir jijik kalau di kasih cermin dimukanya .. > .. udah ya, gw mau bobo, besok bangun pagi mau sahur banyak-banyak.. > .. gw mau pulang ke kampung halaman, mau lebaran sama anak bini .. > .. > .. daaaaag meneer ... > > 2012/7/29 Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...> > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > safin _blanc ngaco lagi.... > > > > Kali ini bak anjing budug lapar melihat seonggok taik angat,safin _blanc > > bergegas melahap omongan sedng arra_s yang termasuk manusia paling dungu > > dimuka bumi ini dan yang otaknya sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi > > menjijikkan. > > > > Lantas sebagai mana lazimnya dia kirim bualan orang Arab primitif sekedar > > pamer otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan itu.. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: > > > > > > .. ya, sungguh mengharukan .. > > > .. hampir menitikkan air mata aku dibuatnya .. ;-) > > > .. > > > .. > > > .. dan ingatlah ketika mereka berbantah-bantahan dalam neraka (note: > > > mungkin terbawa kebiasaan selama didunia), maka orang-orang yg lemah > > > berkata kepada orang-orang yg menyombongkan diri: "sesungguhnya kami ini > > > adalah pengikut-pengikutmu, maka dapatkah kamu menghindarkan dari kami > > > sebagian adzab api neraka?" > > > .. > > > .. qs .. > > > .. > > > .. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:38 AM, arra_s <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bagi Uplik.. Hanya Item yayang yang selalu benar.. dan tidak bisa > > > > dibantah.. > > > > > > > > terharu juga melihat hubungan 2 orang manusia yg sangat mendalam ini.. > > > > hanya ada aku dan kamu, demikian mabuk nya 2 org ini.. kebenaran milik > > kita > > > > berdua.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item > > > > abu.. > > > > > > > > sungguh terharu.. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > .. demi masa .. (waktu yg semakin habis, count down, tik tak tik tak > > ... > > > > ) > > > > > .. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar dalam kerugian .. > > > > > .. kecuali orang yg beriman dan beramal saleh .. > > > > > .. dan nasehat menasehati supaya menaati kebenaran dan nasehat > > menasehati > > > > > dalam kesabaran .. > > > > > .. > > > > > .. qs .. > > > > > .. > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@ > > > > ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > safin _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing tentu saja nggak bisa > > membantah > > > > apa > > > > > > yagn ditulis item abu.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lantas seperti biasanya, dia ngaco lagi dengan mengirim bualan > > orang > > > > Arab > > > > > > primitif.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saya kutip apa yang ditulis "item abu" yang tidak bisa dibantah > > oleh > > > > safin > > > > > > _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing itu: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > > ngebantai di > > > > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. om, hendaknya bersabar sambil simak ini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. dan tidaklah kami mengutus rasul-rasul melainkan sebagai > > pembawa > > > > > > berita > > > > > > > gembira dan sebagai pemberi peringatan; tetapi orang-orang kafir > > > > > > membantah > > > > > > > dengan yg bathil agar dengan demikian mereka dapat melenyapkan > > yang > > > > hak > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > mereka menganggap ayat-ayat kami dan peringatan-peringatan > > terhadap > > > > > > mereka > > > > > > > sebagai olok-olokan.. > > > > > > > .. qs 18:56 .. > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > .. demikianlah, balasan kepada mereka itu ialah neraka, > > disebabkan > > > > > > > kekafiran mereka dan disebabkan mereka menjadikan ayat-ayat ku > > dan > > > > > > > rasul-rasul ku sebagai olok-olok..qs 18:106 .. > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > .. selamat berpuasa .. > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@ > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jangan biasain omong kosong kalau mau jadi Missionaries Yth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jihad apaan? > > > > > > > > ngerampok ngebantai apaan? > > > > > > > > otak elu isinya sampah! > > > > > > > > dari sebab itu omongan&mulut lu bau. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > > > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak > > punya > > > > > > otak > > > > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > > > > ngebantai di > > > > > > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > > > > > > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak > > > > punya > > > > > > otak > > > > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh begitu ya > > > > > > > > >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu juga bejad? > > > > > > > > >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? > > > > > > > > >larang berjudi juga bejad? > > > > > > > > >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > > > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak > > > > punya > > > > > > otak > > > > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi > > orang > > > > > > Minang, > > > > > > > > krn semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya > > Islam > > > > yg > > > > > > bejad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>________________________________ > > > > > > > > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > > > > >>To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM > > > > > > > > >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak > > punya > > > > otak > > > > > > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun > > beragama > > > > Islam. > > > > > > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang > > > > jadi nge > > > > > > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>Paradox Plik ... > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo > > sendiri > > > > gagal > > > > > > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah > > lebih > > > > > > londo > > > > > > > > dari londo. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, > > shalat, > > > > > > puasa. > > > > > > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan > > mengucapkan > > > > dua > > > > > > > > kalimah syahadat. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>Nah elo ? > > > > > > > > >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>kasihan. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > <bukan.pedanda@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang > > > > Arab > > > > > > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang > > berbahasa > > > > > > Arab, > > > > > > > > jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang > > > > masing-masing > > > > > > punya > > > > > > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa > > di > > > > > > al-Musaf > > > > > > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan > > daerah > > > > > > sekitarnya > > > > > > > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg > > > > "berpikir". > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique > > dilemma in > > > > > > > > Ramadan: The Sun never sets here > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini > > adzan > > > > > > > > bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti > > berkumandang di > > > > > > daerah > > > > > > > > anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain > > > > seiring > > > > > > > > berjalannya matahari ... > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai > > > > matahari > > > > > > > > tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan > > > > klausul > > > > > > bahwa > > > > > > > > Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak > > elo > > > > tem > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal > > sehat" > > > > spy > > > > > > ga > > > > > > > > mati waktu puasa di musim panas. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr > > fajar > > > > > > sampe > > > > > > > > matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal > > sehat" > > > > spy ga > > > > > > > > mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal > > > > sehat > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > > konyol, bukan? > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah > > > > konyol, > > > > > > > > atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg > > biarpun > > > > > > jelas2 > > > > > > > > mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat > > pantat > > > > auloh? > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu > > > > > > banyaknya > > > > > > > > orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun > > never > > > > > > sets > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> By AP > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there > > is > > > > > > neither > > > > > > > > dawn nor dusk? > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of > > > > Muslims > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the > > northern > > > > tip of > > > > > > > > Europe, > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at > > this > > > > > > time of > > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that > > straddles the > > > > > > Arctic > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around > > 3:20 > > > > a.m. > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > sets > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe > > Ramadan > > > > could > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > required > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to > > the > > > > summer > > > > > > > > solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, > > 27, > > > > who > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of > > the > > > > > > nearest > > > > > > > > Muslim country: Turkey. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is > > okay, > > > > it's > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > bad," > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental > > organization > > > > > > > > helping > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there > > are a > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > over 100 > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and > > > > > > Afghanistan. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants > > find > > > > their > > > > > > way > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of > > Anchorage, > > > > "after > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to > > follow > > > > the > > > > > > > > fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and > > > > Research, > > > > > > > > however, > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and > > > > sunset, > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > up north. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been > > on > > > > > > going on > > > > > > > > for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the > > Islamic > > > > > > > > Association > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long > > as it > > > > is > > > > > > > > possible to > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of > > > > Sweden's > > > > > > > > Muslims." > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are > > > > awash in > > > > > > > > 24-hour > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the > > closest > > > > city > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Sweden > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting > > that > > > > it's > > > > > > > > permitted > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine > > > > relatives > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. > > She > > > > opts > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > observe > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before > > > > breaking > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > fast in > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works > > > > until the > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar > > meal > > > > > > around 5 > > > > > > > > p.m. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and > > breaking > > > > the > > > > > > > > fast can > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're > > > > supposed to > > > > > > eat > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year > > old > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters ââ¬" > > aged 11 > > > > and > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > ââ¬" help > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries > > filled > > > > with > > > > > > > > tuna in > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove > > > > while > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a > > chicken > > > > broth > > > > > > > > and eat > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> with their fingers ââ¬" traditional Sudanese style > > > > ââ¬" > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > few hours later. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the > > > > lack of > > > > > > > > "Muslim > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > has to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional > > > > > > ingredients > > > > > > > > to come > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the > > > > south. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in > > > > Rovaniemi at > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, > > > > there's a > > > > > > > > grey > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun > > reaching > > > > over > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > northern > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in > > the > > > > > > > > supposed dead of night. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar > > > > calendar, > > > > > > > > moving > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 > > there > > > > will > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > no sunset > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least > > 10 > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > for us to break the fast." > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing > > long > > > > > > fasting > > > > > > > > hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get > > thirsty > > > > > > often. No > > > > > > > > matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge for water." > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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