neng Gaby.. jangan terlalu banyak berkhayal ke jaman barbar.. untuk ukuran jaman sekarang.. yg kamu omongin terdengar basi..
--- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@...> wrote: > > Kumaha mang? Coba baca ulang apa yg dianjurkan oleh si imam dungu. Ingat > teladan hidup nabi junjungan sehubungan dg Aisha. Ajaran Islam banyak yg > > (1) Meremehkan kaum perempuan. Menganggap perempuan tu sekedar awrat berjalan > (betapa tidak mnrt hadist dari ujung kepala sampai kaki harus ditutupi karena > dianggap awrat!). > > (2) Si imut2 Aisha yg baru 6 tahun dilamar (beliau MENULIS kontrak kawin mnrt > hadist bersumber Aisha). > > (3) Beliau sampai hati menjeitkan 'torpedo-nya' di antara paha Aisha. > Kebiasaan ini masih dipraktikkan di banyak negara Islami. > (4) Allah mengharuskan bini2 mencukur jembutnya kalau sang suami pulang malam > dari perjalanan jauh. Jaman itu tentunya terpaksa pakai pisau biasa! > Ouch!pudenda, alat kelamin perempuan > > (5) Bini harus melayani kehendak suami untuk ngesek kapan saja, di mana saja > kalau tidak dikutuk oleh malaikat! > (6) Mnrt berbagai hadist 'mahr' atau mas-kawin itu dinyatakan sebagai ongkos > beli seluruh badan si bini. Dg kata lain seluruh awratnya sudah menjadi milik > si suami! > (7) Masih banyak ayat Qur'an dan hadist yg membicarakan pudenda atau alat > kelamin perempuan. > > Pertanyaan yg perlu dipertanyakan ialah siapa dan ajaran mana yg selalu > membicarakan selangkang? > > Gabriella > > > > > ________________________________ > From: rezameutia <rezameutia@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 11:48 AM > Subject: [proletar] Re: IPS:Radical Clerics Seek to Legalise Child Brides > > > Â > Kenapa orang Kristen seperti Gabby, item, ini selalu pikirannya cuman > disekitar selangkangan doang ya? > > Karena Alkitab isinya Kidung Agung mengajarkan ajaran cabul sih... > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > Si imam dungu itu berkata: "The important thing isÃÂ that the girl is > > ready and can tolerate marriage!" > > > > Sedang dia dan semua Muslim tahu bhw perempuan apalagi yg masih di bawah > > umur tidak mungkin berani menyangkal, menolak kehendak orang tuanya. Jadi > > spt halnya Aisha dia mau tidak mau ketika baru umur 9 tahun ditiduri oleh > > orang yg sudah 50 tahun. [Dan mnrt hadist sebelum consumating the marriage, > > sang calon suami sering ngejepitin torpedonya di antara paha si anak imut2 > > tsb.] > > > > Ini jelas praktik yg tidak bisa diterima civilized society di abad ke-21 > > ini. > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 9:12 PM > > Subject: [proletar] IPS:Radical Clerics Seek to Legalise Child Brides > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > Islam itu, dan bukan hanya Salafi, sungguh nista dan menjijikkan... > > > > Radical Clerics Seek to Legalise Child Brides > > By Cam McGrath > > > > CAIRO, Nov 14 2012 (IPS) - An ultraconservative Salafi cleric recently > > sparked outrage among Egypt's liberal circles when he attempted to justify > > his opposition to a proposed constitutional article that would outlaw the > > trafficking of women for sex. > > > > Speaking on privately-owned Al-Nas satellite channel, Sheikh Mohamed Saad > > El-Azhary said he feared the proposed article could conflict with the local > > practice of child marriage. He explained that in Egypt, particularly in > > rural areas, there is a culture of marrying off girls as soon as they hit > > puberty. > > > > "The important thing is that the girl is ready and can tolerate marriage," > > El-Azhary declared. > > > > He went on to protest proposed laws protecting women from violence, warning > > that if allowed to pass husbands could be prosecuted for beating their > > child brides or forcing themselves upon them. > > > > "If you have intercourse with your wife against her will, she will be able > > to file a complaint against you," he said. "That's where things are headed." > > > > Followers of the Salafi trend believe in a literal reading of the Quran and > > hadith (traditions of Prophet Muhammad) and aspire to emulate the lifestyle > > of the Prophet and his companions. Their puritanical approach to Islam has > > put them at odds with secular Muslims and minority groups, who denounce > > their intolerant worldview. > > > > For Salafis, the fundamental justification for child marriage is passages > > in the hadith that state Prophet Muhammad married his third wife when she > > was six years old, and consummated the marriage after her first menses at > > nine. > > > > Sheikh Yasser Borhamy, spokesman for the Salafi Dawah, outlined his > > interpretation of the Quranic texts during an interview with TV presenter > > Wael El-Ebrashy. He argued that Egypt's marriage laws contradict the > > provisions of Sharia (Islamic law), as girls should be married off once > > they reach puberty, or before "if she can". > > > > "If Islam allowed it during the Prophet's time, it will be permissible > > until the End of Days," Borhamy asserted. > > > > While Salafis represent just a small but vocal minority of Egyptians, the > > recent election of an Islamist parliament and president has extended their > > political clout. > > > > But what deeply concerns child rights advocates is that El-Azhary and > > Borhamy are members of the committee tasked with drafting Egypt's new > > constitution. And they are not alone. Other members of the Islamist-stacked > > panel are known to share their views on child marriage and may be > > attempting to enshrine them in the constitution. > > > > "We fought for years to raise the minimum age of marriage for girls (from > > 16) to 18, and now the Islamists want to lower it," says women's rights > > activist Azza Kamel. "There are Salafis arguing it should be as low as > > nine." > > Some battles may have already been lost. > > > > When a copy of the constitution's first draft circulated last month, rights > > advocates were shocked to find that a proposed clause banning the > > trafficking of women had been omitted. Salafi members of the drafting > > committee had argued to have it removed on the grounds that human > > trafficking "does not exist in Egypt" and its mere mention "tarnishes > > Egypt's image." > > > > International agencies strongly disagree. According to a 2010 report by the > > U.S. State Department, human trafficking exists at many levels in Egypt. > > The country is a transit point and destination for trafficked African and > > Asian women and children, who are subjected to forced labour and > > prostitution. > > > > It is also a source of trafficked women, including young girls exploited > > under the guise of marriage. > > > > Local NGO Memphis Foundation for Development says the phenomenon of child > > marriage is widespread in Egypt, particularly in rural areas where parents > > often marry off their daughters early to escape grinding poverty. Research > > conducted in 2008 found that nearly a quarter of all marriages involved > > girls under 16. > > > > Afaf Marei, director of the Egyptian Association for Community > > Participation Enhancement (EACPE), says many of these underage girls are > > sold by their parents to wealthy Gulf Arabs who come to Egypt in search of > > "summer brides". > > > > The marriages are arranged by lawyers who act as brokers, and may last from > > hours to months according to the "dowry" paid to the parents. Often the > > transaction is made without the girl's knowledge or consent. > > > > "These marriages are a form of trafficking women (under the pretence of) > > Islamic law," says Marei. > > > > The Muslim Brotherhood, the conservative Islamic group that dominated this > > year's parliamentary and presidential polls, has kept a low profile in the > > discourse on child marriage. While some reformists in the group reject the > > practice, its hardline leaders were the principal opponents of the 2008 law > > that raised the minimum marriage age of girls to 18. > > > > Now, as pressure mounts on the constitutional drafting body to have the > > document ready by a Dec. 12 deadline, the Brotherhood's weight could prove > > decisive both on the panel and at the polls. If the constitution goes to a > > referendum without a clause explicitly banning the trafficking of women, it > > is likely to pass given the Brotherhood's ability to rally public support, > > say liberal activists. > > > > "We're fighting to win, but rationally I don't think we can," concedes Amal > > Abdel Hadi, head of the New Women Foundation. "This is just one battle and > > we're fighting the Islamists on even greater issues such as (to guarantee) > > the equality of citizenship." 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