Jawaban Pinpin bener Tapi yang dibilang Habe gak salah total soal maskulim
-----Original Message----- From: "pinpinyuliansyah" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:29:54 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [proletar] Re: CNN: Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal battle in Indonesia prosesurnya nddak begitu sensei . . . islam tidak memperbolehkan langsung talak tiga. maksute begini . . . hari ini si uplik bilang "marlene! kau gemuk! goyangan elo parahhhh! hari ini gw ceraikan elo dengan talak satu! " nah. . . itu udah resmi cerai tuh . . . swbelum masa iddah abis, misalnya besok paginya ketemu marlene, trus uplik kebelet, uplik tinggal bilang "rujuk yu . . . " maka si marlenene cukup ngangguk sambil buka baju. aore nya, karena janjian sama si item, uplik tereak lagi . . . "marlweeennnnn elo gw ceraiiiiii! gw punya pacar baruuuuu! " nah . . . itu talak dua jatuh tuh . . . trua beaok beaoknya, eh ketemu lagi, eh kebelet lagi . . . rujuk lagi deh . . . trua. . . kumat lagi. . . keluar talak tiga . . . ini problim . . . karena uplik nddak biaa rujuk sama marlene, kecuali marlene dikawinin dulu sama bonobo dan dicerai dulu sama bonobo, baru uplik boleh meminang marlene lagi dan harus kawin seperti biasa . . . mas kawin . . saksi . . ijab kabul. . . gitu swnaei . . . --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar <proletar4@...> wrote: > > Islam ini agama maskulin, agama yang dikuasai laki laki > seorang  laki laki bisa menceraikan istrinya kapan saja dan hampir dengan > cara apa saja > tapi sebaliknya kalau perempuan ingin menceraikan suaminya, perkaranya > dibikin susah dan rumit > mesti ke pengadilan agama lah, didengarkan dulu alasan alasannya lah, setelah > itu keputusan cerai bisa iya bisa gagal > > nih satu lagi yang kocak, jika seorang suami telah menceraikan bininya secara > sah dengan ngomong begini > " sri gue ceraiin lu hari ini " > > eh besoknya dia nyesel, ternyata bini gue bahenol juga ya, apalagi musim > dingin begini > dia pengen balik lagi sama si sri bahenol, tapi hukum islam mengatakan si sri > mesti kawin dulu sama orang > lain lalu cerai sebelum balik lagi sama si mas tawang > > mas tawang akhirnya bilang > > " sri, mas pengen balik lagi, sebaiknya lu kawin dulu sama mas dimas, > bobo bareng aja biar cuma semalem juga ora opo opo sri " > > how stupid > > > > > ________________________________ > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:27 PM > Subject: [proletar] Re: CNN: Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal > battle in Indonesia > > >  > talak lewat sms memang legal secara islam. bisa juga lewat titip pesen > "tolong bilang sama si a, gw ceraikan die gitu! " kalimat ini juga sah dan > legal dalam islam. bahkan dengan kalimat "pulang sana ke orang tua mu! " > ucapan inipun adalah sah dan legal. atau afdolnya begini, cukup bilang " anu > . . . dengan ini saya ceraikan kamu dengan talak satu . . . " kalimat ini > sudah sah secara islam. > > bukan mengada ada. tapi itulah adanya. > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > Mnrt pengacara Aceng talak melalui SMS itu legal dlm Islam. Memangnya > > ketika Nabi Junjungan menceraikan salah satu bininya, beliau juga ketik > > Talak lewat Ponsel? > > > > Ada2 saja sodara2 kita Muslim ini! > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 2:55 PM > > Subject: [proletar] CNN: Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal > > battle in Indonesia > > > > > > à> > > > Peristiwa cere liwat SMS itu ternyata samp juga ke CNN.. > > > > -- > > > > [CNN] > > Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal battle in Indonesia > > By Kathy Quiano, CNN > > December 6, 2012 -- Updated 0627 GMT (1427 HKT) > > > > CNN.com > > > > Jarkarta, Indonesia (CNN) -- The marriage lasted four days and ended in > > divorce via text message, from the 40-year-old local politician to his > > 17-year-old wife. > > > > Aceng Fikri claimed his young bride Fani Oktara was not a virgin, as she > > had claimed, so he decided to end the union, his lawyer Ujang Suja'I said. > > > > She denied it, and in turn accused Aceng -- who is the head of the district > > of Garut in West Java -- of spreading baseless accusations against her. Her > > lawyer Danny Suliwisjaya told CNN that Aceng had deceived his client into > > marriage. > > > > Aceng caused a stir after his July wedding to Fani. Although 16 is the > > legal age for marriage in Indonesia, Aceng was already married with > > children. Few Muslims practice polygamy, and while it is not against the > > law, Indonesian civil servants are also prohibited from taking on second > > spouses under strict regulations governing their private lives. > > > > A photo of the alleged wedding ceremony was posted on the Internet. > > Religious weddings are common in Indonesia but marriages need to be civilly > > and legally registered. > > > > Aceng claimed divorcing his wife through text messaging is allowed under > > Islamic Sharia law, his lawyer said. > > > > Public outrage over the marriage, and subsequent divorce, came after Fani > > reported Aceng to the police on Monday, asking that he be charged with > > falsifying his marital status, fraud, defamation and unpleasant conduct. > > > > Police are still investigating Fani's complaint; as yet, there are no > > charges against Aceng. > > > > There have since been daily protests in Garut, calling for his resignation. > > > > The girl's lawyer, Danny Suliswijaya, told CNN she and her family decided > > to go public only after months of asking Aceng for an apology. > > > > Suliswijaya said Aceng told Fani that he was a widower. > > > > "He said he married Fani as his only wife, so he cheated and failed to tell > > the truth," Suliswijaya said. The lawyer claims Aceng also reneged on > > promises to send her to university and to the minor Hajj in Mecca. > > > > The embattled official apologized late Monday but stood by his version of > > the story. "If what I did was wrong, even though it was allowed by Islamic > > law, then I deeply apologize to my family and my ex-wife," he told > > reporters. Ujang told CNN they will report Fani and her family to the > > police, seeking charges of fraud and extortion. > > > > "Aceng accused her of not being a virgin on the second day of their > > marriage and she didn't deny it. That's why Aceng decided to end the > > marriage and send her back to her parents," Aceng's lawyer said. Fani's > > attorney insists the accusations are baseless. > > > > According to his lawyer, Aceng gave the girl's family 43 million rupiah > > (roughly $4,000) for her university fees and the minor Hajj trip. He says > > the girl's family agreed to the settlement but continued to contact Aceng > > for more money, "blackmailing the district head." Fani's attorney denies > > Aceng's claims, and says all his client wanted was an apology. > > > > Indonesian President Susilo has ordered the Home Affairs Ministry to summon > > Aceng and investigate the matter. On Wednesday, Garut's local legislative > > council also decided to create a special committee to look into Aceng's > > case. > > > > His lawyer said the case needed "to go through legal channels," and that > > his client's potential removal as district chief was not imminent: "the > > council has to wait for the results of the police investigation before > > making a decision on Aceng's dismissal." > > > > Women and children's rights activists, however, welcome the investigations > > and the public outcry over the case. > > > > Muhammad Ihsan, secretary of the Commission for the Protection of > > Indonesian Children or KPAI, told CNN the regent head may be held liable > > for a sexual offense, if it is proven that the regent head deceived the > > teenage girl. > > > > The commission says human trafficking, the illegal sex trade and the > > exploitation of women are rampant, particularly in the province of West > > Java. > > > > In not a few cases, parents or relatives give up their teenage daughters > > for marriage, in exchange for money. > > > > Ihsan said that when the facts of this case become clearer, it could > > highlight well-known and common practices of exploiting young women. > > > > "If a public official is allowed to get away with behavior like this, then > > the public will think this is acceptable", said Ihsan. > > > > Rudy Madanir contributed to this report. > > 17 > > Comments û > > > > Print > > Email > > More sharing > > > > é 2012 Cable News Network. 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