Coba ajukan pertanyaan ini: apa ada bukti nabi najis Muhammad yang diriwayatkan 
hadits dan sirah nabi itu memang ada?

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--- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> 
wrote:
>
> sensei . . . 
> pak mamat itu tidak buta huruf.
> "tidak bisa membaca" atawa ummi di sini adalah ketika die dipandang gagal 
> dqlam membaca kondisi dwngan bi ismi rabb.
> 
> maksute begini . . . 
> 
> pak mamat pan masuk gua pan . . . gelap pan . . . trus itu si gabril nyuruh 
> pak mamat baca. pak mamat protes dong. . . "yang bener ajah gabriel. . . ini 
> gua. . . ini gelap. . . ogut nddak bisa membaca dong . . . lagian apa yang 
> harus saya baca ? ( ma ana bi qori bei beh . . . ? )
> 
> sampai 3 kali gabril ini nyuruh dan 3 kali juga pak mamat protes "pala lu 
> peang!  ini gelap!  gw nddak bisa baca atuh!  lagian apa yang moati gua 
> bacaaaa? "
> 
> jibril kemudian ngomong . . . iqro . . . iqro bi ismi rabbik . . . 
> 
> muhammad bingung. balik ke rumah, minta diswlimutin sama khadijah. bobo deh . 
> . . 
> 
> baru aja bobo, itu jibrol nongol lagi . . . 
> 
> hai orang yang berselimut! 
> yaa ayyuhal mudatair!  qum!  fa andzir! 
> jangan molor mlulu!  bangun!  dan berikanlah peringatan! 
> 
> kurang lebih gitu . . .
> 
> waktu itu belum ada email atau bbm sih . . . kalau udah ada, jibril pan bisa 
> pakai email ajah. biar nddak capek capek ngejar ngejar pak mamat gituh . . .
> 
> --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> >
> > coba sebutin, kapan gue setuju dengan si aceng?
> > belajar agama itu ngga perlu sampai tamat kuliah agama trus pake gelar kok
> > Muhammad aja bukan orang berpendidikan, baca tulis aja ngga mampu
> > begitu juga kebanyakan para sahabatnya
> > 
> > nyentriknya lagi ada orang bergelar profesor
> > meneliti hadis yang lahir dari  perkataan dan kelaukan seorang buta huruf
> > 
> > piye toh mas?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: johny_indon <johny_indon@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:25 PM
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: CNN: Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal 
> > battle in Indonesia
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > kebeneran gua nonton acara di tv one yg dihadiri aceng suraceng tukang 
> > ngaceng, salah satu ustad ngarab yg gua lupa namanya (yg dlm acara itu 
> > kayak kambing conge karena cuman dikasih kesempatan ngomong dikit 
> > banget), dan profesor azyumardi azra, mantan rektor universitas 
> > islam negri yg sekampung dengan habe dan uplik.
> > 
> > sebagai catatan, ketiga orang yg tampil ini punya latar belakang 
> > agama islam yg kental. si aceng sarjana agama, si ustad.. yah namanya
> > ustad ga perlu dijelasin lagi, dan sang profesor adalah mantan 
> > rektor yg -nah ini gua baru tau- ternyata manusia pertama di luar 
> > negara persemakmuran yg dikasih pangkat Commander of the Order of 
> > British Empire dan berhak pake gelar Sir oleh pemerintah inggris. 
> > (sementara orang minang lainnya harus cukup puas dengan gelar sutan 
> > saja). gua perlu jelaskan hal ini supaya pemirsa tau mana ulama 
> > yg kw super, mana yg kw 3.
> > 
> > apa yg dibilang habe di bawah ini, persis banget seperti yg dikatakan 
> > si aceng. 
> > gua ngga bilang salah satu di antara mereka saling berguru ya.
> > tapi jelas di sini bahwa pemahaman habe dan aceng itu memang sama.
> > mungkin memang sumber yg diambil sama, atau punya paradigma yg sama, 
> > gua ngga tau.
> > 
> > menurut profesor azra, menceraikan bini dalam islam ngga semudah 
> > klik send di tombol hp, tapi kudu melalui beberapa tahapan, gua lupa berapa 
> > puluh tahapan, pokoknya ngga gampang deh.
> > jadi di sini keliatannya memang ada gap soal pengetahuan.
> > pengetahuan aceng (dan dalam hal ini habe juga, ngga apa2 be, elu 
> > kan bukan sarjana agama) adalah pengetahuan -sorry, bukan merendahkan 
> > kampung- ala orang kampung yg jangkauan pemikirannya ngga lebih 
> > luas dari daun kelor maupun kolor. 
> > sedangkan pengetahuan sang profesor bergelar sir ini jelas pengetahuan 
> > abad 21. pengetahuan seorang intelektual yg membuat ratu elizabeth 
> > rela menyematkan gelar Sir pada manusia yg berasal dari negara yg 
> > konon, menurut sebagian orang, sedang berkembang itu.
> > 
> > bukan karena gua sebel sama si aceng, bukan.
> > bahkan gua pikir si aceng cukup sukses memperkenalkan garut 
> > pada dunia, karena yg dilakukan anthony bourdain walaupun pernah 
> > nampilin garut di acara no reservations itu kayaknya kurang sukses.
> > tapi apa yg dibilang sang profesor memang masuk akal koq.
> > tinggal liat fakta di lapangan aja.
> > ada berapa juta orang islam di indonesia yg menceraikan istrinya 
> > lewat sms? kayaknya baru si aceng doang ya. jadi ini adalah anomali, 
> > dan membuktikan bahwa apa yg dipercaya habe malah tidak dipercaya 
> > oleh jutaan pasangan muslim di indonesia.
> > 
> > fakta lainnya juga membuktikan bahwa soal perceraian di kalangan 
> > muslim memang ngga gampang.
> > coba liat beberapa artis yg muslim dan cerai, mereka harus keluar 
> > duit ber juta2 buat bayar lawyer cuman untuk mendapatkan 
> > selembar surat cerai.
> > padahal kalo apa yg dibilang habe (dan aceng) bener, kan tinggal 
> > kirim sms aja, ongkosnya ngga nyampe 300 perak sekali klik send, ya toh?
> > 
> > yah ini sekedar sharing penglihatan aja.
> > karena gua liat acara tv one, yg lain mungkin kagak sempet liat.
> > kalo ada yg mau cere'in bini pake sms kayak si aceng, karena 
> > percaya apa yg dilakukannya sah dan valid, ya lakukan aja.
> > cuman sebelum kirim sms pastikan dulu bahwa pulsanya cukup.
> > karena gua yakin, yg cere'in bininya pake sms itu kalo bukan 
> > karena pelitnya luar biasa, pasti bokeknya luar biasa.
> > (kalo begonya luar biasa sih ngga usah ditanya).
> > 
> > soal agama maskulin nih.
> > yesus itu cowok (biarpun ngga kawin2, tapi bisa dipastikan cowok), 
> > semua murid yesus juga cowok (bener ngga? wakti itu gua bolos mulu soalnya).
> > buddha cowok juga.
> > kong hu chu, juga cowok.
> > brahma, wisnu, siwa, threesome... eh threemurti dlm agama hindu itu juga 
> > digambarkan lanang kabeh. 
> > apalagi yah... gua rada butek kalo ttg agama soalnya.
> > barangkali ada yg tau agama yg sesembahan/junjungannya cewek? 
> > 
> > tapi denger2 di leiden ada agama baru sih, namanya joggingism, 
> > sesembahannya cewek bertetek gede, kalo ngga salah sih.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Islam ini agama maskulin, agama yang dikuasai laki laki
> > > seorang  laki laki bisa menceraikan istrinya kapan saja dan hampir 
> > > dengan cara apa saja
> > > tapi sebaliknya kalau perempuan ingin menceraikan suaminya, perkaranya 
> > > dibikin susah dan rumit
> > > mesti ke pengadilan agama lah, didengarkan dulu alasan alasannya lah, 
> > > setelah itu keputusan cerai bisa iya bisa gagal
> > > 
> > > nih satu lagi yang kocak, jika seorang suami telah menceraikan bininya 
> > > secara sah dengan ngomong begini
> > > " sri gue ceraiin lu hari ini " 
> > > 
> > > eh besoknya dia nyesel, ternyata bini gue bahenol juga ya, apalagi musim 
> > > dingin begini
> > > dia pengen balik lagi sama si sri bahenol, tapi hukum islam mengatakan si 
> > > sri mesti kawin dulu sama orang
> > > lain lalu cerai sebelum balik lagi sama si mas tawang
> > > 
> > > mas tawang akhirnya bilang
> > > 
> > > " sri, mas pengen balik lagi, sebaiknya lu kawin dulu sama mas dimas,
> > > bobo bareng aja biar cuma semalem juga ora opo opo sri "
> > > 
> > > how stupid
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> > > To: [email protected] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:27 PM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: CNN: Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal 
> > > battle in Indonesia
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > talak lewat sms memang legal secara islam. bisa juga lewat titip pesen 
> > > "tolong bilang sama si a, gw ceraikan die gitu! " kalimat ini juga sah 
> > > dan legal dalam islam. bahkan dengan kalimat "pulang sana ke orang tua 
> > > mu! " ucapan inipun adalah sah dan legal. atau afdolnya begini, cukup 
> > > bilang " anu . . . dengan ini saya ceraikan kamu dengan talak satu . . . 
> > > " kalimat ini sudah sah secara islam.
> > > 
> > > bukan mengada ada. tapi itulah adanya. 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mnrt pengacara Aceng talak melalui SMS itu legal dlm Islam. Memangnya 
> > > > ketika Nabi Junjungan menceraikan salah satu bininya, beliau juga ketik 
> > > > Talak lewat Ponsel?
> > > > 
> > > > Ada2 saja sodara2 kita Muslim ini!
> > > > 
> > > > Gabriella
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >  From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
> > > > To: [email protected] 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 2:55 PM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] CNN: Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal 
> > > > battle in Indonesia
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > Peristiwa cere liwat SMS itu ternyata samp juga ke CNN..
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > [CNN]
> > > > Divorce by text message sparks bizarre legal battle in Indonesia
> > > > By Kathy Quiano, CNN
> > > > December 6, 2012 -- Updated 0627 GMT (1427 HKT)
> > > > 
> > > > CNN.com
> > > > 
> > > > Jarkarta, Indonesia (CNN) -- The marriage lasted four days and ended in 
> > > > divorce via text message, from the 40-year-old local politician to his 
> > > > 17-year-old wife.
> > > > 
> > > > Aceng Fikri claimed his young bride Fani Oktara was not a virgin, as 
> > > > she had claimed, so he decided to end the union, his lawyer Ujang 
> > > > Suja'I said.
> > > > 
> > > > She denied it, and in turn accused Aceng -- who is the head of the 
> > > > district of Garut in West Java -- of spreading baseless accusations 
> > > > against her. Her lawyer Danny Suliwisjaya told CNN that Aceng had 
> > > > deceived his client into marriage.
> > > > 
> > > > Aceng caused a stir after his July wedding to Fani. Although 16 is the 
> > > > legal age for marriage in Indonesia, Aceng was already married with 
> > > > children. Few Muslims practice polygamy, and while it is not against 
> > > > the law, Indonesian civil servants are also prohibited from taking on 
> > > > second spouses under strict regulations governing their private lives.
> > > > 
> > > > A photo of the alleged wedding ceremony was posted on the Internet. 
> > > > Religious weddings are common in Indonesia but marriages need to be 
> > > > civilly and legally registered.
> > > > 
> > > > Aceng claimed divorcing his wife through text messaging is allowed 
> > > > under Islamic Sharia law, his lawyer said.
> > > > 
> > > > Public outrage over the marriage, and subsequent divorce, came after 
> > > > Fani reported Aceng to the police on Monday, asking that he be charged 
> > > > with falsifying his marital status, fraud, defamation and unpleasant 
> > > > conduct.
> > > > 
> > > > Police are still investigating Fani's complaint; as yet, there are no 
> > > > charges against Aceng.
> > > > 
> > > > There have since been daily protests in Garut, calling for his 
> > > > resignation.
> > > > 
> > > > The girl's lawyer, Danny Suliswijaya, told CNN she and her family 
> > > > decided to go public only after months of asking Aceng for an apology.
> > > > 
> > > > Suliswijaya said Aceng told Fani that he was a widower.
> > > > 
> > > > "He said he married Fani as his only wife, so he cheated and failed to 
> > > > tell the truth," Suliswijaya said. The lawyer claims Aceng also reneged 
> > > > on promises to send her to university and to the minor Hajj in Mecca.
> > > > 
> > > > The embattled official apologized late Monday but stood by his version 
> > > > of the story. "If what I did was wrong, even though it was allowed by 
> > > > Islamic law, then I deeply apologize to my family and my ex-wife," he 
> > > > told reporters. Ujang told CNN they will report Fani and her family to 
> > > > the police, seeking charges of fraud and extortion.
> > > > 
> > > > "Aceng accused her of not being a virgin on the second day of their 
> > > > marriage and she didn't deny it. That's why Aceng decided to end the 
> > > > marriage and send her back to her parents," Aceng's lawyer said. Fani's 
> > > > attorney insists the accusations are baseless.
> > > > 
> > > > According to his lawyer, Aceng gave the girl's family 43 million rupiah 
> > > > (roughly $4,000) for her university fees and the minor Hajj trip. He 
> > > > says the girl's family agreed to the settlement but continued to 
> > > > contact Aceng for more money, "blackmailing the district head." Fani's 
> > > > attorney denies Aceng's claims, and says all his client wanted was an 
> > > > apology.
> > > > 
> > > > Indonesian President Susilo has ordered the Home Affairs Ministry to 
> > > > summon Aceng and investigate the matter. On Wednesday, Garut's local 
> > > > legislative council also decided to create a special committee to look 
> > > > into Aceng's case.
> > > > 
> > > > His lawyer said the case needed "to go through legal channels," and 
> > > > that his client's potential removal as district chief was not imminent: 
> > > > "the council has to wait for the results of the police investigation 
> > > > before making a decision on Aceng's dismissal."
> > > > 
> > > > Women and children's rights activists, however, welcome the 
> > > > investigations and the public outcry over the case.
> > > > 
> > > > Muhammad Ihsan, secretary of the Commission for the Protection of 
> > > > Indonesian Children or KPAI, told CNN the regent head may be held 
> > > > liable for a sexual offense, if it is proven that the regent head 
> > > > deceived the teenage girl.
> > > > 
> > > > The commission says human trafficking, the illegal sex trade and the 
> > > > exploitation of women are rampant, particularly in the province of West 
> > > > Java.
> > > > 
> > > > In not a few cases, parents or relatives give up their teenage 
> > > > daughters for marriage, in exchange for money.
> > > > 
> > > > Ihsan said that when the facts of this case become clearer, it could 
> > > > highlight well-known and common practices of exploiting young women.
> > > > 
> > > > "If a public official is allowed to get away with behavior like this, 
> > > > then the public will think this is acceptable", said Ihsan.
> > > > 
> > > > Rudy Madanir contributed to this report.
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