"Lu ngaku lulusan STM, tp bisa kerja di Dinas Pajak dan ditawarin jadi dosen ITB. Itu nunjukin bhw lu ini gila." dixit item abu....
--- In [email protected], Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@...> wrote: > > > > Opa sudah pikun? > > kapan terahir Opa berhubungan Sex dengan nenek Marlene? > > masih lancar atau tidak? > > kalau kurang lancar > > > pergilah berobat,di belandakan Gratis > > "Lu ngaku lulusan STM, tp bisa kerja di Dinas Pajak dan ditawarin jadi > dosen ITB. Itu nunjukin bhw lu ini gila." dixit item abu.... > > > ________________________________ > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:35 PM > Subject: [proletar] Re: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf) > > >  > > Saya membaca posting Greg Le Mond itu.. > > Sedih.. > > Betul-betul sedih saya membacanya: bagaimana bisa di zaman digital ini masih > ada orang yagn sedungu Greg Le Mond itu: hanya karena Paus ikut "sembahyang" > di mesjid di Turki dan karena Paus mengundurkan diri lantas disimpulkannya > Puas masuk Islam. > > Tapi nggak heran ada orang Islam yang bilang salah seorang astronaut Amerika > juga masuk islam atau Napoleon yang juga masuk Islam.. > > Lalu ilmu cocologi itu lho.. > > Atau persisnya: ini pertanda orang Islam itu tahu bahwa agama najis yagn > mereka anut itu sedang karam.. > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau wrote: > > > > Beberapa waktu lalu Grek dlm postingnya yg berjudul Paus Masuk Islam dan > > disertai himbauan agar yg membaca menyebar luaskan klaim orang2 dungu bhw > > Pope Benedict mengundurkan diri dan masuk Islam. > > > > Untuk keseimbangan pendapat aku sertakan artikel mengenai pidato Paus > > Benedict yg DIPROTES keras oleh umat Islam karena beliau dlm pidatonya > > mengritik Islam. Yg ingin lebih banyak membaca ttg pendapat dia mengenai > > Islam aku anjurkan untuk click 'Pope Benedict's speech on Islam' atau 'Pope > > Benedict's criticism of Islam' > > > > Gabriella > > > > POPE BENEDICT CRITICIZES ISLAM > > (Artinya dia tidak menjadi mualaf) > > à> > "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was > > new, and thereyou will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his > > command > > to spread by the sword the faith he preached." > > These > > words, expressed six centuries ago by a Byzantine emperor, Manuel II > > Paleologus, in dialogue with an Iranian scholar, spur three reflections. > > Pope > > Benedict XVI offered the above quote, neither endorsing nor condemning it, > > in > > his academic speech, "Faith, Reason and the University: Memories and > > Reflections," delivered in German last week in Germany. It > > served to introduce his erudite critique of the Western concept of reason > > since > > the Enlightenment. > > But did > > he have other purposes? The head of the Benedictine order, Abbot Notker > > Wolf, understood the pope's quote as > > "a blatant allusion to [Iran's President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad." Vatican > > insiders told the LondonSunday Times that Benedict "was trying to pre-empt > > an aggressive letter aimed at the > > papacy by the president of Iran, which was why he cited the debate > > involving a > > Persian." > > First > > reflection: Benedict has offered elusive comments, brief statements, and > > now this delphic quotation, > > but he has not provided a much-needed major statement on this vital topic of > > Islam. One hopes it is in the offing. > > Whatever > > the pope's purpose, he prompted the near-predictable furor in the Muslim > > world. > > Religious and political authorities widely condemned the speech, with some > > calling for violence. > > > > * In Britain, while leading a rally outside Westminster Cathedral, > > Anjem Choudary of Al-Ghurabaa called for the pope "to be subject to capital > > punishment." > > * In Iraq, the Mujahideen's Army threatened to "smash the crosses in > > the house of the dog from Rome" and other groups made blood-curdling > > threats. > > * In Kuwait, an important website called for violent retribution > > against Catholics. > > * In Somalia, the religious leader Abubukar Hassan Malin urged Muslims > > to "hunt down" the pope and kill him "on the spot." > > * In India, a leading imam, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, called on Muslims to > > "respond in a manner which forces the pope to apologise." > > * A top Al-Qaeda figure announced that "the infidelity and tyranny of > > the pope will only be stopped by a major attack." > > The > > Vatican responded by establishing an extraordinary and unprecedented > > security cordon around the pope. Further away, the incitement spurred some > > violence, with more > > likely on the way. Seven churches were attacked in the West Bank and Gaza, > > one in Basra, Iraq (prompting this ironic headline at > > the "RedState" blog: "Pope implies Islam a violent religion ... Muslims bomb > > churches"). The murder of an Italian nun in Somalia and two Assyrians in > > Iraq also appear connected. > > Second > > reflection: this new round of Muslim outrage, violence, and murder has a > > by-now > > routine quality. Earlier versions occurred in 1989 (in response to Salman > > Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses), > > 1997 (when the U.S. Supreme Court did not take down a representation > > of Muhammad), 2002 (when Jerry Falwell called Muhammad a terrorist), 2005 > > (the fraudulent Koran-flushing episode), and February 2006 (the > > Danish cartoon incident). > > Vatican > > leaders tried to defuse the pope's quote, as well as his condemnation of > > jihad (holy war). The papal spokesman, Federico Lombardi, S.J., said > > Benedict did not > > intend to give "an interpretation of Islam as violent. ââ¬Â¦ inside Islam > > there are many different positions and there are many positions that are not > > violent." Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the secretary of state, > > indicated that the pope "sincerely regrets that certain passages of his > > address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim > > faithful." > > Then, in > > what may be an unprecedented step by a pope, Benedict himself proffered the > > sort of semi-apology often favored by those feeling the > > heat. "I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few > > passages of my address," reads the official Vatican translation into > > English, "which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims. > > These in fact were a quotation from a medieval text, which do not in any way > > express my personal thought." > > In the Italian original, however, Benedict says only sono rammaricato, > > which translates as "I am disappointed" or > > "I regret." > > Third > > reflection: the Muslim uproar has a goal: to prohibit criticism of Islam by > > Christians and thereby to impose Shariah norms on the West. Should > > Westerners accept this central tenet of Islamic law, others will surely > > follow. > > Retaining free speech about Islam, therefore, represents a critical defense > > against the imposition of an Islamic order. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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