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kapan terahir Opa bermain cinta dengan nenek marlene? kalau tidak lancar,baiknya langsung berobat bukan nya dibelanda kedokter itu gratis. "Lu ngaku lulusan STM, tp bisa kerja di Dinas Pajak dan ditawarin jadi dosen ITB. Itu nunjukin bhw lu ini gila." dixit item abu.... (OCD) merupakan penyakit yang menyerang mental yang ditandai dengan ciri-ciri melakukan berpikir berulang-ulang dan melakukan perbuatan yang berulang-ulang. pergilah berobat kan Gratis. ________________________________ From: Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:37 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf) Sebaliknya kalau ada muslimin atau muslimah murtad maka maut tantangannya... Lha beda pendapat antara muslim aja, seperti beda pendapat antara shiah dan sunni mereka main bunuh kok.. --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau wrote: > > Kalau ada uskup menjadi mualaf itu urusan dia. Umat Katolik tidak akan sewot > dan Vatikan tidak perlu berkomentar. > > Sebaliknya kalau ada orang dungu dan ber-al taqqiya mengatakan bhw seseorang > menjadi mualaf, misalnya Pope Benedict, tapi kenyataannya tidak demikian maka > orang yg waras harus menyangkal berita ngaco tersebut. Soalnya kalau tidak > ada yg menyangkal kebohongan semacam ini maka sebagian besar umat Islam yg > tidak pernah mengecheck kebenaran lalu yakin bhw kebohongan itu adalah > kebenaran yg haq. > > Gabriella > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Greg Le Mond > To: "gkrantau@..." ; Alexander > Cc: Proletar [email protected]>; Pemikir [email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 11:41 PM > Subject: Re: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf) > > > Apa anda gak baca pula bahwa gereja roma gak mampu membantah uskup yg jadi > mualaf? > > Anyway, kenapa sewot? > > Kalau emang bener kenyataan seperti itu anda mau apa? Gantung diri > > Dan manusia bodoh seperti anda sudah dibilang untuk kedua kalinya saya bukan > member milist yg anda ikutin. Kalau anda mau bawa temen2 bahas ini lihat dulu > saya posting di milist mana > > Dasar dungu > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > ________________________________ > > From: Gabriella Rantau > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:58:24 -0800 (PST) > To: grek_2002@... ; Alexander > ReplyTo: Gabriella Rantau > Cc: [email protected]>; [email protected]> > Subject: Re: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf) > > Bung Greg Le Mond, bacalah kutipan dari pidato Paus Benedict yg mengatakan > bhw yg dibawa oleh Muhammad adalah hal2 yg EVIL dan INHUMAN. Yg jahat dan > tidak berperi kemanusiaan. > > Bayangkan orang yg berpendapat begitu jelas ttg Islam sbg ajaran yg jahat dan > tidak berperi kemanusiaan tidak mungkinlahdia masuk Islam. > > Gabriella > > > > ________________________________ > From: Greg Le Mond > To: "gkrantau@..." ; Alexander > Cc: Proletar [email protected]>; Pemikir [email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf) > > > Saya bukan member milist proletar, atau pemikir > > Postingan anda pun tiap saat hanya bermaterikan kedunguan anda saja, jadi > tidak perlu memutar balik lagi soal claim paus > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > ________________________________ > > From: Gabriella Rantau > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:16:42 -0800 (PST) > To: grek_2002@... ; Alexander Edbert > ReplyTo: Gabriella Rantau > Cc: [email protected]>; milis > [email protected]> > Subject: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf) > > Beberapa waktu lalu Grek dlm postingnya yg berjudul Paus Masuk Islam dan > disertai himbauan agar yg membaca menyebar luaskan klaim orang2 dungu bhw > Pope Benedict mengundurkan diri dan masuk Islam. > > Untuk keseimbangan pendapat aku sertakan artikel mengenai pidato Paus > Benedict yg DIPROTES keras oleh umat Islam karena beliau dlm pidatonya > mengritik Islam. Yg ingin lebih banyak membaca ttg pendapat dia mengenai > Islam aku anjurkan untuk click 'Pope Benedict's speech on Islam' atau 'Pope > Benedict's criticism of Islam' > > Gabriella > > POPE BENEDICT CRITICIZES ISLAM > (Artinya dia tidak menjadi mualaf) >  > "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was > new, and thereyou will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command > to spread by the sword the faith he preached." > These > words, expressed six centuries ago by a Byzantine emperor, Manuel II > Paleologus, in dialogue with an Iranian scholar, spur three reflections. > Pope > Benedict XVI offered the above quote, neither endorsing nor condemning it, in > his academic speech, "Faith, Reason and the University: Memories and > Reflections," delivered in German last week in Germany. It > served to introduce his erudite critique of the Western concept of reason > since > the Enlightenment. > But did > he have other purposes? The head of the Benedictine order, Abbot Notker Wolf, > understood the pope's quote as > "a blatant allusion to [Iran's President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad." Vatican > insiders told the LondonSunday Times that Benedict "was trying to pre-empt an > aggressive letter aimed at the > papacy by the president of Iran, which was why he cited the debate involving a > Persian." > First > reflection: Benedict has offered elusive comments, brief statements, and now > this delphic quotation, > but he has not provided a much-needed major statement on this vital topic of > Islam. One hopes it is in the offing. > Whatever > the pope's purpose, he prompted the near-predictable furor in the Muslim > world. > Religious and political authorities widely condemned the speech, with some > calling for violence. > > * In Britain, while leading a rally outside Westminster Cathedral, > Anjem Choudary of Al-Ghurabaa called for the pope "to be subject to capital > punishment." > * In Iraq, the Mujahideen's Army threatened to "smash the crosses in > the house of the dog from Rome" and other groups made blood-curdling threats. > * In Kuwait, an important website called for violent retribution > against Catholics. > * In Somalia, the religious leader Abubukar Hassan Malin urged Muslims > to "hunt down" the pope and kill him "on the spot." > * In India, a leading imam, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, called on Muslims to > "respond in a manner which forces the pope to apologise." > * A top Al-Qaeda figure announced that "the infidelity and tyranny of > the pope will only be stopped by a major attack." > The > Vatican responded by establishing an extraordinary and unprecedented security > cordon around the pope. Further away, the incitement spurred some violence, > with more > likely on the way. Seven churches were attacked in the West Bank and Gaza, > one in Basra, Iraq (prompting this ironic headline at > the "RedState" blog: "Pope implies Islam a violent religion ... Muslims bomb > churches"). The murder of an Italian nun in Somalia and two Assyrians in Iraq > also appear connected. > Second > reflection: this new round of Muslim outrage, violence, and murder has a > by-now > routine quality. Earlier versions occurred in 1989 (in response to Salman > Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses), > 1997 (when the U.S. Supreme Court did not take down a representation > of Muhammad), 2002 (when Jerry Falwell called Muhammad a terrorist), 2005 > (the fraudulent Koran-flushing episode), and February 2006 (the > Danish cartoon incident). > Vatican > leaders tried to defuse the pope's quote, as well as his condemnation of > jihad (holy war). The papal spokesman, Federico Lombardi, S.J., said Benedict > did not > intend to give "an interpretation of Islam as violent. … inside Islam > there are many different positions and there are many positions that are not > violent." Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the secretary of state, > indicated that the pope "sincerely regrets that certain passages of his > address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim > faithful." > Then, in > what may be an unprecedented step by a pope, Benedict himself proffered the > sort of semi-apology often favored by those feeling the > heat. "I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few > passages of my address," reads the official Vatican translation into > English, "which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims. > These in fact were a quotation from a medieval text, which do not in any way > express my personal thought." > In the Italian original, however, Benedict says only sono rammaricato, which > translates as "I am disappointed" or > "I regret." > Third > reflection: the Muslim uproar has a goal: to prohibit criticism of Islam by > Christians and thereby to impose Shariah norms on the West. Should > Westerners accept this central tenet of Islamic law, others will surely > follow. > Retaining free speech about Islam, therefore, represents a critical defense > against the imposition of an Islamic order. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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