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Jan 11, 2011
Sodomy and Sufism in Afgaynistan
By Spengler
Social scientists attached to the Second Marine Battalion in Afghanistan last
year circulated a startling report on Pashtun sociology, in the form of a human
terrain report on male sexuality among America's Afghan allies. The document,
made available by military sources, is not classified, just disturbing. Don't
ask, don't tell doesn't begin to qualify the problem. These are things you
didn't want to know, and regret having heard. The marines got their money's
worth from their Human Terrain adjuncts, but the report might have considered
whether male pedophilia in Afghanistan has a religious dimension as well as a
cultural one. I will explain why below.
Most Pashtun men, Human Terrain Team AF-6 reports, engage in sex with men -
boys - in fact, the vast majority of their sexual contacts are with males. "A
culturally-contrived homosexuality [significantly not termed as such by its
practitioners] appears to affect a far greater population base then some
researchers would argue is attributable to natural inclination. Some of its
root causes lie in the severe segregation of women, the prohibitive cost of
marriage within Pashtun tribal codes, and the depressed economic situation into
which young Pashtun men are placed."
The human terrain team responded to scandalous interactions between Pashtun
fighters and North Atlantic Treaty Organization troops, some reported with
hilarity by the media. An article in the Scotsman of May 24, 2002, reported,
for example: "In Bagram, British marines returning from an operation deep in
the Afghan mountains spoke last night of an alarming new threat - being
propositioned by swarms of gay local farmers. An Arbroath marine, James
Fletcher, said: 'They were more terrifying than the al-Qaeda. One bloke who had
painted toenails was offering to paint ours. They go about hand in hand,
mincing around the village.' While the marines failed to find any al-Qaeda
during the seven-day Operation Condor, they were propositioned by dozens of men
in villages the troops were ordered to search."
Another interviewee in the article, a marine in his 20s, stated, "It was hell.
Every village we went into we got a group of men wearing makeup coming up,
stroking our hair and cheeks and making kissing noises."
The trouble, the researchers surmise, is "Pashtun society's extremely limited
access to women," citing a Los Angeles Times interview with a young Pashtun
identified as Daud. He only has sex with men, explaining: "I like boys, but I
like girls better. It's just that we can't see the women to see if they are
beautiful. But we can see the boys, and so we can tell which of them is
beautiful."
Many of the Pashtuns interviewed allow "that homosexuality is indeed prohibited
within Islam, warranting great shame and condemnation. However, homosexuality
is then narrowly and specifically defined as the love of another man. Loving a
man would therefore be unacceptable and a major sin within this cultural
interpretation of Islam, but using another man for sexual gratification would
be regarded as a foible -undesirable but far preferable to sex with a
ineligible woman, which in the context of Pashtun honor, would likely result in
issues of revenge and honor killings."
How prevalent are homosexual relations among Pashtuns? The researchers note
that "medics treated an outbreak of gonorrhea among the local national
interpreters on their camp. Approximately 12 of the nearly 20 young male
interpreters present in the camp had contracted the disease, and most had done
so anally. This is a merely anecdotal observation and far too small of a sample
size to make any generalizations regarding the actual prevalence of homosexual
activity region-wide. However, given the difficulty in procuring such data, it
may serve as some indicator."
Through Khaled Hosseini's 2003 novel The Kite Runner, Western audiences caught
a glimpse of what the military team calls "an openly celebrated cultural
tradition. Kandahar's long artistic and poetic tradition idolizes the
pre-pubescent 'beardless boy' as the icon of physical beauty. Further, even the
newly re-emerging musical nightlife of southern Afghan cities idolizes
pre-pubescent boy performers, whose star status lasts only as long as their
voices remain immature."
"Kandahar's Pashtuns have been notorious for their homosexuality for centuries,
particularly their fondness for naive young boys. Before the Taliban arrived in
1994, the streets were filled with teenagers and their sugar daddies, flaunting
their relationship. It is called the homosexual capital of South Asia. Such is
the Pashtun obsession with sodomy - locals tell you that birds fly over the
city using only one wing, the other covering their posterior - that the rape of
young boys by warlords was one of the key factors in Mullah Omar mobilizing the
Taliban," the report adds.
Although the Taliban discouraged open display, it "should not be viewed as free
of the culture and tradition of homosexuality of the Pashtun world of which it
is a part" the authors add.
"Men who take on a halekon [young male lover] often attempt to integrate the
boy into their families by marrying him to a daughter when the boy is no longer
young enough to play the 'beardless' role. This maintains the love relationship
between the father and son-in-law which inevitably makes difficult the
establishment of a normal relationship with the wife," the human terrain Team
explains.
The team's results are striking, but they place too much emphasis on the
weirdness of Pashtun tradition and give too little attention to the broader
role of homosexuality in Islamic (and especially Sufi) culture. What scholars
now consider the Golden Age of Islamic love poetry, the Persian high middle
ages, made homosexual pederasty the normative mode of love. While Petrarch
wrote sonnets to Laura and Dante longed for Beatrice, their counterparts in the
canon of Islamic poetry, Hafez and Rumi, wrote of their infatuation with young
boys.
Afghanistan's own Sufi poet was the 17th-century bard Abdul Rahman Baba, of
whom little is known except that he is said to have eloped with a young boy
named Mujnoon. He is generally portrayed as a premature flower-child dedicated
to peace and love; that must be what the Taliban thought as well, for they
placed a bomb in his tomb in March 2009. According to the limited available
criticism of Rahman's work, his Pashto poems are closely related to the Persian
style of Rumi.
The prevalence of homosexual pedophilia in classical Islamic poetry, Persian as
well as Pashto, suggests that the human terrain team may have missed an
important dimension, namely the religious. In a study entitled Sufism, Sodomy
and Satan published in this space August 12, 2008, I argued:
Sufi pedophilia cannot be dismissed as a remnant of the old tribal practices
that Islam often incorporated, for example, female genital mutilation. Genital
mutilation is a pre-Islamic practice unknown in the ancient and modern West.
Even though some Muslim authorities defend it on the basis of Hadith, no one
has ever claimed that it offered a path to enlightenment. Sadly, pedophiles are
found almost everywhere. In its ascendancy, Sufism made a definitive spiritual
experience out of a practice considered criminally aberrant in the West. But
pederasty as a spiritual exercise is not essentially different in character
from the furtive practices of Western perverts. As the psychiatrists explain,
pederasty is an expression of narcissism, the love of an idealized youthful
self-image.
All forms of contemplative mysticism involve the danger that the object of
adoration into which one dissolves might turn out to be one's self. It sounds
well and good to seek God in the all, that is, no place in particular. The
trouble is that if one tries to dissolve one's self into the all, one's self
becomes part of the all. The lover cannot distinguish himself from the all. The
self and the all are the same, and one loves one's self. There is no other in
Sufism, only your own ego staring back in the carnival mirror of mysticism. The
adept does not worship a God who is wholly other - YHWH of the Hebrew Bible or
Jesus of the Gospels - but a younger and prettier version of himself. In that
respect, pedophilia in Afghanistan may have a distinctly religious motivation.
Spengler is channeled by David P Goldman, Senior Editor at First Things
magazine.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tawangalun
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:54 AM
Subject: [proletar] Apakah Yusuf suami Maria Pedofilia?
Apakah Yusuf Suami Maria Pedofilia
Ekstrimis Trinitarian seringkali menghujat Nabi Muhammad SAW sebagai seorang
pedofilia karena menikah dengan gadis muda bernama Aisyah. Meskipun kita
sebagai Muslim berusaha menjelaskan bahwa pernikahan seperti ini adalah lazim
dizaman dahulu, namun mereka tidak mau memperdulikan penjelasan kita. Kristen
mengatakan tidak ada pedofilia dalam agama Kristen, namun diartikel ini Anda
akan mengetahui dari Ensiklopedia Katholik bahwa Maria (ibunda Yesus) yang
diduga berusia sekitar 12-14 tahun telah dinikahi oleh Yusuf (Joseph)Tukang
Kayu yang diduga telah berusia 90 tahun!
Ensiklopedia Katholik
Online : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm
Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time
ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates.that St. Joseph was
an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.
Terjemahan.
"Maria, kemudian berumur 12 hingga 14 tahun, Yusuf, yang pada waktu itu
sedang berumur 90 tahun, pergi ke Yerusalem diantara kandidat-kandidat... bahwa
St. Yusuf adalah seorang lelaki tua pada waktu menikahi ibunya Tuhan."
Dalam Injil Perjanjian Baru memang dikatakan bahwa Yusuf tidak berhubungan
badan dengan Maria ketika ia mengandung Yesus dan Yesus bukan benih dari Yusuf.
Tetapi mengenai masalah persetubuhan ini Injil Matius menyatakan :
Injil Matius 1:24-25 TB
"Sesudah bangun dari tidurnya, Yusuf berbuat seperti yang diperintahkan
malaikat Tuhan itu kepadanya. Ia mengambil Maria sebagai isterinya, tetapi
tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai ia melahirkan anaknya laki-laki dan Yusuf
menamakan Dia Yesus".
Jadi menurut Injil Matius, Yusuf tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai Yesus
lahir. Seandainya Injil Matius hendak menyatakan kepada kita mengenai
persetubuhan Yusuf-Maria itu tidak pernah ada selama masa hidup mereka, maka
Injil Matiua akan mengatakan :
"dan ia tidak pernah bersetubuh dengan dia" atau "dan ia sama sekali tidak
pernah bersetubuh dengan dia".
Bukan :
"tetapi tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai ia melahirkan" (Matius 1:25).
Jadi menurut Injil Matius 1:25, Yusuf hanya tidak bersetubuh dengan Maria
saat ia hamil. Atau dengan kata lain, Yusuf bersetubuh setelah Maria melahirkan
Yesus, yang artinya Yusuf bersetubuh dengan seorang wanita berusia 13-15 tahun.
Jika Ekstrimis Kristen menyatakan kriteria pedofilia adalah berhubungan seks
dengan pasangan dibawah usia 17 tahun artinya pasangan suci ini (sebagaimana
kepercayaan kristen) telah menjalin dan melakukan hubungan pedofilia.
Selain itu, kita dapat pula menyimpulkan bahwa tidak ada batasan umur
pernikahan dalam literatur kitab suci Kristen sekalipun, contohnya adalah Maria
yang dinikahi Yusuf pada usia 12-14 tahun.
Sumber:
History of Joseph the Carpenter
3. Now when righteous Joseph became a widower, my mother Mary, blessed,holy,
and pure, was already twelve years old. For her parents offered her
in the temple when she was three years of age, and she remained in the temple
of the Lord nine years. Then when the priests saw that the virgin, holy and
God-fearing, was growing up, they spoke to each other, saying: Let us search
out a man, righteous and pious, to whom Mary may be entrusted until the time of
her marriage; lest, if she remain in the temple, it happen to her as is wont to
happen to women, and lest on that account we sin, and God be angry with us.
4. Therefore they immediately sent out, and assembled twelve old men of the
tribe of Judah. And they wrote down the names of the twelve tribes of
Israel. And the lot fell upon the pious old man, righteous Joseph. Then the
priests answered, and said to my blessed mother: Go with Joseph, and be with
him till the time of your marriage. Righteous Joseph therefore received my
mother, and led her away to his own house. And Mary found James the Less in his
father's house, broken-hearted and sad on account of the loss of his mother,
and she brought him up. Hence Mary was called the mother of James.[1]
Thereafter Joseph left her at home, and went away to the shop where he wrought
at his trade of a carpenter. And after the holy virgin had spent two years in
his house her age was exactly fourteen years, including the time at which he
received her.
Sumber:
THE GOSPEL OF THE NATIVITY OF MARY
CHAP. 8.-Now there was among the rest Joseph, of the house and family of
David, a man of great age: and when all brought there rods, according to the
order, he alone withheld his. Wherefore, when nothing in conformity with the
divine voice appeared, the high priest thought it necessary to consult God a
second time; and He answered, that of those who had been designated, he alone
to whom the virgin ought to be espoused had not brought his rod. Joseph,
therefore, was found out. For when he had brought his rod, and the dove came
from heaven; and settled upon the top of it, it clearly appeared to all that he
was the man to whom the virgin should be espoused. Therefore, the usual
ceremonies of betrothal having been gone through, he went back to the city of
Bethlehem to put his house in order, and to procure things necessary for the
marriage. But Mary, the virgin of the Lord, with seven other virgins of her own
age, and who had been weaned at the same time, whom she had received from the
priest, returned to the house of her parents in Galilee.
Sumber:
Injil James
VIII. 1 And her parents gat them down marveling, and praising the Lord God
because tile child was not turned away backward.
And Mary was in the temple of the Lord as a dove that is nurtured: and she
received food from the hand of an angel.
2 And when she was twelve years old, there was a council of the priests,
saying: Behold Mary is become twelve years old in the temple of the Lord. What
then shall we do with her ? lest she pollute the sanctuary of the Lord. And
they said unto the high priest: Thou standest over the altar of the Lord. Enter
in and pray concerning her: And whatsoever the Lord shall reveal to thee, that
let us do.
3 And the high priest took the vestment with the twelve bells and went in
unto the Holy of Holies and prayed concerning her. And lo, an angel of tile
Lord appeared saying unto him: Zacharias, Zacharias~ go forth and assemble them
that are widowers of the people, and let them bring every man a rod, and to
whomsoever the Lord shall show a sign, his wife shall she be. And the heralds
went forth over all the country round about Judaea, and the trumpet of the Lord
sounded, and all men ran thereto.
IX. 1 And Joseph cast down his adze and ran to meet them, and when they were
gathered together they went to the high priest and took their rods with them.
And he took the rods of them all and went into the temple and prayed. And when
he had finished the prayer he took the rods and went forth and gave them back
to them: and there was no sign upon them. But Joseph received the last rod: and
1o, a dove came forth of the rod and flew upon the bead of Joseph. And the
priest said unto Joseph: Unto thee hath it fallen to take the virgin of the
Lord and keep her for thyself. 2 And Joseph refused, saying: I have sons, and I
am an old man, but she is a girl: lest I became a laughing-stock to the
children of Israel. And the priest said unto Joseph: Year the Lord thy God, and
remember what things God did unto Dathan and Abiram and Korah, how the earth
clave and they were swallowed up because of their gainsaying. And now fear
thou, Joseph, lest it be so in thine house. And Joseph was afraid, and took her
to keep her for himself. And Joseph said unto Mary: Lo, I have received thee
out of the temple of the Lord: and now do I leave thee in my house, and I go
away to build my buildings and I will come again unto thee. The Lord shall
watch over thee.
Daftar Pustaka :
- http://www.answering-christianity.com/age_of_mary.htm
- Ensiklopedia Katholik newadvent.org
Catatan:
Saya membaca artikel Age of Mary when she had Jesus, dimana artikel tsb
merujuk Enskiklopedia Katholik dengan alamat
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm. Tetapi setelah saya cek, tampaknya
Kristen `gerah' sehingga mereka merubahnya. Dan kini saya masih menemukan
pernyataan tsb di http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm . Saya harap
Kristen tidak merevisi kalimat tsb.
Baca Juga:
http://datakristen.blogspot.com/2007/09/pedofilia-balita-dan-teror-bible.html
http://datakristen.blogspot.com/2007/09/apakah-yusuf-suami-maria-pedofilia.html
Shalom,
Tawangalun.
N.B.Kasihan bener Maria itu dapat suami wis tikluk tikluk 90 th.
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