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--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote:
>
> Quran itu jelas bikinan orang banyak selama berthn2.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:42:08 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: 
> QurÃÆ'ƒÂ¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢an
>  or Science?
> 
>    
> habis , kan gak mungkin dari TAIK Anjiang bukan ? Dari siapa lagi >
> 
> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >
> > Ga ada bukti sama sekali.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:40:52 AM
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: 
> > QurÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢an
> >  or Science?
> > 
> > 
> > Memang bener dicetak oleh manusia kok. Tapi isinya dari Allah.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kalo lu make logika, maka akan kliatan bhw Quran penuh dg kesalahan2 yg 
> >berarti 
> >
> > >
> > > Quran itu cuma bikinan orang doang.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:33:22 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: 
> > >QurÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢an
> > > or 
> > >
> > > Science?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dan Allah Maha Logika
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dgn orang Islam coba ngebuktikan kebenaran Quran make "sains" gaya 
> >Bucaille, 
> >
> > 
> > > > orang Islam itu sebetulnya udah bilang bhw auloh itu tunduk pd sains.
> > > > 
> > > > Abbas ini kliatannya masih punya logika, cuma sayangnya begitu Islam yg 
> > > >dinilai, 
> > > >
> > > > logikanya ngedadak ngilang.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 10:17:26 AM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: 
> > >QurÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢an
> > > or 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > Science?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Justru Allah diluar semua hukum alam; tapi Allah sendiri yang mencipta 
> >segala 
> >
> > >
> > > > hukum alam ini; untuk kepentingan ciptaanNya.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo Quran itu berisi sains yg menunjukkan Quran itu dr auloh, 
> > > > > berarti 
> > >auloh 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >itu 
> > > > >
> > > > > tunduk pd hukum sains, hehehe...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sayangnya, orang Islam yg dungu2 itu umumnya ga bisa ngerti apa yg 
> > > > > gua 
> > >bilang 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > ini dan konsekuensinya.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Jusfiq <kesayangan.allah@>
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 10:29:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: 
> > >QurÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢an
> > > or 
> > >
> > > >Science?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://ziauddinsardar.com/2011/02/quran-science/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Between Two Masters: Qur'an or Science?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The headline in the Bulletin of the Islamic Medical Association of 
> > > > > South 
> 
> > > >Africa 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > announces a staggering discovery. Canadian scholar confirms Quran and 
> > >Ahadith 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >on 
> > > > >
> > > > > Human Embryology (1). The story tells us that a certain Dr Keith 
> > > > > Moore, 
> > > > >Chairman 
> > > > >
> > > > > of the anatomy department of the University of Torontos School of 
> >Medicine, 
> >
> > >
> > > >has 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > discovered the happy marriage between the Islamic revelation and 
> > >contemporary 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > human developmental anatomy. I am amazed at the scientific accuracy 
> > > > > of 
> > >these 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > statements which were made in the seventh centuryIt is quite 
> > > > > reasonable 
> >for 
> >
> > >
> > > > > Muslims to believe that these verses are revelations from God, Moore 
> > > > > is 
> > > > >reported 
> > > > >
> > > > > to have said.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What has Keith Moore discovered that has excited the Muslim doctors, 
> > > >scientists 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and scholars so much? His paper, Highlights of human embryology in 
> > > > > the 
> > >Koran 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >and 
> > > > >
> > > > > the Hadith, was first presented at the Seventh Saudi Medical Meeting, 
> > > > > and 
> >
> > >has 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > since then been reprinted in a number of places (2). It simply reads 
> >modern 
> >
> > >
> > > > > biology into certain Quranic verses, describing the development of a 
> >foetus 
> >
> > >
> > > >and 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > illustrating them with clinical drawings and text book descriptions. 
> > > > > For 
> 
> > > > > example, the Quranic verse, verily, we fashioned man from a small 
> >quantity 
> >
> > >of 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > mingled liquids (Nut-fatin Imthjin) (76:2) is explained by Moore as 
> > >referring 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >to 
> > > > >
> > > > > the mixture of a small quantity of sperms with the oocyte and its 
> > >associated 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > follicular fluid, or the male and female sexual secretion. The 
> > > > > resulting 
> 
> > > >mixed 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > drop, made up of the ovum and penetrating sperm, becomes the zygote, 
> > > > > the 
> 
> > > > > precursor of the embryo. Similarly, explanation, for example, is 
> > > > > given of 
> >
> > >the 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > following verses, Verily, we created man from a product of wet earth; 
> >then 
> >
> > 
> > > > > placed him as a drop (of seed) (Nutfatun) in a safe lodging; then 
> >fashioned 
> >
> > >
> > > >We 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the drop a clot (alaga), then fashioned We the clot a little lump, 
> >(Mudgha) 
> >
> > >
> > > > >then 
> > > > >
> > > > > fashioned We the little lump bones (Izam), then clothed the bones 
> > > > > with 
> > >flesh 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >and 
> > > > >
> > > > > then produced it as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the best 
> > >Creator! 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > (23:12-14). Reading these verses, Moore made some clay models and 
> > > > > showed 
> 
> > >them 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >to 
> > > > >
> > > > > be similar to the description of the verses. He starts with an embryo 
> > > > > at 
> >28 
> >
> > >
> > > > >days 
> > > > >
> > > > > and shows that by the sixth week bones begin to form and muscles 
> > > > > appear 
> >on 
> >
> > 
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > embryo. By the seventh week the bones give a human shape to the 
> > > > > embryo. 
> >The 
> >
> > >
> > > > >ears 
> > > > >
> > > > > and eyes begin to form in the fourth week and are visible by the 
> > > > > sixth, 
> >or 
> >
> > >42 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > days after the zygote has been formed. All these developments are in 
> > > >conformity 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > with the Quranic description, Moore tells us.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what does all this prove? Does it confirm the Divine origins of 
> > > > > the 
> > >Quran? 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >Or 
> > > > >
> > > > > does it merely tell us that the Quran is a treasure chest of 
> > > > > scientific 
> > > >facts? 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > What is the function of the exercise? This incident throws 
> > > > > considerable 
> > >light 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >on 
> > > > >
> > > > > the state of the Muslim mind: its acute inferiority complex; its 
> >obsession 
> >
> > 
> > > >with 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > science and by extension with modernity; and its pathological concern 
> >with 
> >
> > 
> > > > > seeing the Quran as the end of knowledge rather than as a text that 
> > >provides 
> > >
> > > >an 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ethical framework for the pursuit of knowledge. On the surface, such 
> > >attempts 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >to 
> > > > >
> > > > > legitimise modern science by equating it with the Quran, or to prove 
> > > > > the 
> 
> > > >divine 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > origins of the Quran by showing that it contains scientifically valid 
> > >facts, 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > appear harmless, indeed, even commendable exercises. However, when 
> >pursued 
> >
> > >on 
> > >
> > > >a 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > nave basis, as is often done by Muslim scholars, such methods can be 
> > > >dangerous; 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and when undertaken deliberately, be it sincerely, often by 
> > > > > non-Muslim 
> > > > >scholars, 
> > > > >
> > > > > it can have mischievous consequences.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The inference drawn by comparing the Quran and science is two-fold: 
> > > > > if 
> >the 
> >
> > 
> > > > >facts 
> > > > >
> > > > > and theories mentioned in the Quran, which was revealed 1400 years 
> > > > > ago, 
> >are 
> >
> > >
> > > > > supported by modern science, the Divine nature of the Quran is 
> > > > > confirmed, 
> >
> > >(if 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > confirmation is indeed what we are looking for); and conversely, if 
> >modern 
> >
> > 
> > > > > scientific facts and theories find a reflection in the Quran, then 
> > > > > modern 
> >
> > > > > science must also have the same universal and eternal validity as the 
> > >Quran. 
> > >
> > > >My 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > counter arguments is simple and though it will be discussed in detail 
> > >towards 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the end, suffice it to say now that the Quran, which is a book of 
> >guidance, 
> >
> > >
> > > > >does 
> > > > >
> > > > > not need confirmation from any other source. For Muslims, it is a 
> > > > > priori 
> 
> > > >valid 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > and eternal. Any attempt at reading science in the Quran makes the 
> >eternal 
> >
> > 
> > > > > scripture subservient to science; and it elevates science to the 
> > > > > level 
> > >where 
> > >
> > > >it 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > becomes the arbitrator of what is and what is not Truth. It further 
> > >enforces 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >the 
> > > > >
> > > > > mythical notion that scientific theories are neutral, universal and 
> > >eternally 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > valid. Moreover, trying to read science in the allegorical, 
> > > > > metaphorical 
> 
> > >and 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > symbolic verses of the Quran often stretches analogical reasoning 
> > > > > beyond 
> 
> > >its 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > limits and leads to absurd and in some cases, to quite contradictory 
> > > > >conclusions 
> > > > >
> > > > > not intended by the Quran. It is apologia of the worst type.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Apologetic Muslim authors trying to prove that the Quran is very 
> >scientific 
> >
> > >
> > > >and 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > modern often start by stating that the Quran places great emphasis, 
> > > > > and 
> > > >indeed 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > it does, on the pursuit of knowledge and the use of reason. Some 750 
> > >verses, 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > almost one-eighth of the Quran, in contrast to only 250 legislative 
> >verse, 
> >
> > 
> > > > > exhorts the believers to study nature, reflect, make the best use of 
> > >reason, 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > make scientific enterprise an integral part of the community life. It 
> > > > > is 
> 
> > > > >further 
> > > > >
> > > > > pointed out that the Quran mentions several scientific facts and 
> >theories, 
> >
> > 
> > > >all 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > of which are supported by the most recent discoveries and advances.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This type of apologetic literature, trying to give scientific 
> >legitimation 
> >
> > >to 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the Quran, goes back to the early sixties. In fact, one of the 
> > > > > earliest 
> > > > > pamphlets came out of Cairo: On Cosmic Verses in the Quran by 
> > > > > Muhammad 
> > > > > Jamaluddin El-Fandy (3). El-Fandy has a sense of religious 
> > > > > superiority 
> >that 
> >
> > >
> > > > > manifests itself in his attempts to prove that every astronomical 
> >discovery 
> >
> > >
> > > >and 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > scientific theory (that is in the 1950s) has already been mentioned 
> > > > > in 
> >the 
> >
> > 
> > > > > Quran. He considers the Quran as the best example of scientific 
> >expression 
> >
> > 
> > > >(an 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > unsuitable claim as the ideal form of scientific expression is a 
> > >mathematical 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > equation; and there certainly are no equations in the Quran). Thus, 
> > > > > from 
> 
> > > >almost 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > any Quranic verse referring to any astronomical phenomenon, El-Fandy 
> > > > > can 
> 
> > >draw 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > modern astronomical parallels and comparisons. For example, from the 
> >verse, 
> >
> > >
> > > >all 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > is He who raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see, 
> > > > > and 
> > > >neither 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > can the night outstrip the day, and each revolve in an orbit, 
> > > > > al-Fandy 
> > >draws 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >the 
> > > > >
> > > > > following inference:
> > > > > 
> > > > > If we consider the sky a name given to anything which is over our 
> > > > > heads, 
> 
> > >then 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >it 
> > > > >
> > > > > will surely mean the entire universe which surrounds us and which 
> > > > > begins 
> 
> > >with 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the space around the earth followed by the planets, the sun and other 
> >stars 
> >
> > >
> > > > > found in the depth of space, in our galaxy or in other galaxies. All 
> >these 
> >
> > 
> > > > > heavenly bodies move in their orbits. This is the sky. It is created 
> > > > > by 
> > >Allah 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > and each body in the space is similar to the brick in its lofty 
> >structure. 
> >
> > 
> > > >All 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > these heavenly bodies split one after the other and are held in their 
> > > >relative 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > positions by centrifugal force and universal gravity. The gravity and 
> >this 
> >
> > 
> > > > > centrifugal force, produced by rotation in semi-circular orbits or 
> > >ellipses, 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > could be treated as actually built pillars. Although we may not 
> > > > > detect 
> >such 
> >
> > >
> > > > > forces with our eyes, yet that does not mean that they are not there 
> > > > > in 
> >any 
> >
> > >
> > > > > case, since we can measure and give their specifications correctly. 
> > > > > If 
> > >anyone 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >of 
> > > > >
> > > > > us is granted a suitable sense in addition to the normal ones we 
> > > > > have, he 
> >
> > > >will 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > be able to feel these (tubes of forces) exactly as we can feel any 
> >material 
> >
> > >
> > > > >body 
> > > > >
> > > > > with our normal senses. (4).
> > > > > El-Fandy does not stop here. He goes on to argue that the atmosphere 
> > > > > can 
> 
> > be
> > > > > regarded as a pillar and that light itself is like a pillar, with the 
> > >colours 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >of 
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > 
> > > > > spectrum being minor pillars! In the other verses of the Quran, 
> > > > > El-Fandy 
> 
> > > >finds 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > evidence for the creation of red giants, white dwarfs, existence of 
> > > > > ether 
> >
> > > >(?), 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the evolution of the planets and the big bang theory. And there is 
> > > > > more: 
> 
> > > > >science 
> > > > >
> > > > > supports the Quranic claim, writes al-Fandy, that life exists on 
> > > > > other 
> > > >planets. 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > After quoting numerous verse, including, And they Lord best knows 
> > > > > those 
> >who 
> >
> > >
> > > >are 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > in the heavens and the earth and to Him submit whosoever is in the 
> >heavens 
> >
> > 
> > > >and 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the earth, he ventures to describe what aliens may look like (here it 
> > > > > is 
> 
> > >not 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > clear whether he is drawing inferences from the Quran or science):
> > > > > 
> > > > > If we try to define the shape or form which developed races living 
> >outside 
> >
> > 
> > > >our 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > planet will have, we should, in this case, and without inviting 
> > >complication 
> > >
> > > >s 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > act on the assumption that nature has made no dissimilarity 
> > > > > whatsoever in 
> >
> > >its 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > method. Accordingly, such creatures, in their attempt to make good 
> > > > > show, 
> 
> > > >share 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > with us the following:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. The bodys reliance on an inner osteology made of hard material.
> > > > > 2. The existence of a main centre for nerves (the brain) which 
> >communicates 
> >
> > >
> > > > >with 
> > > > >
> > > > > various parts of the body directives (thenerves).
> > > > > 3. The best shelter for the brain which exists inside a safe movable 
> >organ 
> >
> > 
> > > > > either in the fore or the top part of the body
> > > > > 4. Creatures dependence upon legs used in motion.
> > > > > 5. The existence of a mouth for speaking and feeding (5)
> > > > > 
> > > > > All this is not just bad science. It makes a mockery of the Quran. 
> >However, 
> >
> > >
> > > > > compared to many others, El-Fandy is quite sane. Azizul Hasan Abbasi, 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > Pakistani neuropsychiatrist, manages to find in the Quran modern 
> > > > > cures 
> >for 
> >
> > 
> > > > > diabetes, tuberculosis, stomach ulcers, rheumatism, arthritis, blood 
> > > >pressure, 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > asthma, dysentery and paralysis! (6).
> > > > > 
> > > > > In recent years, this rather banal comparative approach to science 
> > > > > and 
> > >Islam 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >has 
> > > > >
> > > > > been legitimised by the French surgeon, Maurice Bucaille. His book, 
> > > > > The 
> > > >Bible, 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the Quran and Science (7) is essential reading for Muslims with 
> > > > > larger 
> >than 
> >
> > >
> > > > >life 
> > > > >
> > > > > inferiority complexes and has been translated into almost every 
> > > > > Muslim 
> > > > >language, 
> > > > >
> > > > > from Arabic, Persian, Turkish, Urdu to Indonesian. Bucaille sets out 
> > > > > to 
> >do 
> >
> > >a 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > detailed and thorough analysis of the holy scriptures in the light of 
> > >modern 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > knowledge. He focuses on four topics: astronomy, the earth, animal 
> > > > > and 
> > > > >vegetable 
> > > > >
> > > > > kingdom and human reproduction. The methodology followed is the well 
> > > > >established 
> > > > >
> > > > > one of quoting the Quranic verse and then giving a scientific 
> > > > > commentary 
> >on 
> >
> > >
> > > > > them. Bucaille tries to be more objective and takes pains to point 
> > > > > out 
> >that 
> >
> > >
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Quran contains scientific information that was not available at the 
> > > > > time 
> >of 
> >
> > >
> > > > > revelation and, in fact, some of the information contained in it is 
> > >contrary 
> > >
> > > >to 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > what people believed at the time of the Prophet. After going through 
> > > > > the 
> 
> > > > > standard motions of examining verses about the orbit of the moon and 
> > > > > the 
> 
> > >sun, 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the water cycle, the reproduction procedure, he concludes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Quran most definitely did not contain a single proposition at 
> >variance 
> >
> > 
> > > >with 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the most firmly established modern knowledge, nor did it contain any 
> > > > > of 
> >the 
> >
> > >
> > > > > ideas current at the time on the subjects it describes. Furthermore, 
> > >however, 
> > >
> > > >a 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > large number of facts are mentioned in the Quran which were not 
> >discovered 
> >
> > 
> > > > >until 
> > > > >
> > > > > modern times. So many in fact, that on November 9, 1976, the present 
> >author 
> >
> > >
> > > >was 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > able to read before the French Academy of Medicine a paper on the 
> > > >Physiological 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and Embyological data in the Quran. The data like many others on 
> >differing 
> >
> > 
> > > > > subjects constituted a veritable challenge to human explanation in 
> > > > > view 
> >of 
> >
> > 
> > > >what 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > we know about the history of the various sciences through the ages. 
> >Modern 
> >
> > 
> > > >mans 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > findings concerning the absence of scientific error are therefore in 
> > >complete 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > agreement with the Muslims exegetes conception of the Quran as a Book 
> > > > > of 
> 
> > > > > Revelation. It is a consideration which implies that God could not 
> >express 
> >
> > >an 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > erroneous idea.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The bible, of course, did not meet the stringent criteria of modern 
> > >knowledge 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > and the clear-cut conclusion of Bucaille is that it is impossible not 
> > > > > to 
> 
> > > >admit 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the existence of scientific errors in the Bible. However, all this 
> > > > > simply 
> >
> > > > >states 
> > > > >
> > > > > the obvious with a sense of real discovery: the Muslim belief that 
> > > > > the 
> > >Quran, 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >as 
> > > > >
> > > > > the Word of Allah, cannot contain any errors and that the Bible, as 
> > > > > it 
> > >exists 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > today, is not true Divine revelation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But where Bucaille stops, Bucaillism takes over. A number of recent 
> >studies 
> >
> > >
> > > > >have 
> > > > >
> > > > > tried to look further for scientific facts and theories in the Quran. 
> >Thus 
> >
> > 
> > > > > Shamsul Haq, for example, manages to find the seeds of the theory of 
> > > >relativity 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and quantum ma=echanics in the Quran and produces Quranic evidence to 
> > >support 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the Big Bang Theory (The Quran and Modern Cosmology Science and 
> >Technology 
> >
> > >in 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the Islamic World 1 (1) 47-52 (1983). M Manzoor-I-Khuda manages to 
> > > > > find 
> >the 
> >
> > >
> > > > > theory of the development of the biosphere, the water cycles of life 
> > > > > on 
> > >earth 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >in 
> > > > >
> > > > > the Quran (Creation and the Cosmos in Islamic Scientific Thought and 
> >Muslim 
> >
> > >
> > > > > Achievements in Science, proceedings of the International Conference 
> > > > > on 
> > > >Science 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > in Islamic Polity, Islamabad, 1983, Vol 1, p96-113). Moore 
> >notwithstanding, 
> >
> > >
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > entire field of embryology has been discovered several times in the 
> >Quran.
> > > > > 
> > > > > After all this scientific data and support for numerous theories, it 
> >seems 
> >
> > 
> > > >that 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the Quran has not left anything out. And to enforce the point that 
> > >scientific 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > equations are not missing from the Book of Guidance, Rashad Khalifas 
> > > > >statistical 
> > > > >
> > > > > analysis (Miracle of the Quran Islamic Productions International, St. 
> > >Louis, 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > Missouri, 1973) even provides that. Khalifa focuses on Quranic 
> > > > > initials 
> > > >letters 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > which appear at the beginning of some surahs (chapters) and feeds the 
> > > >frequency 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > of occurrence of each letter into a computer. The letters are : Alif 
> > > > > (A), 
> >
> > >Ha 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > (H), Ra , Sin (S), Sad (S), Ta (T), Ayn (A), Qaf (Q), Kaf (K), Lam 
> > > > > (L), 
> >Mim 
> >
> > >
> > > > >(M), 
> > > > >
> > > > > Nun (N), Ha (H), and Ya (Y). His additional data includes the total 
> >number 
> >
> > >of 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > letters in each of 114 Surahs of the Quran and the number of verse in 
> >each 
> >
> > 
> > > > > Surah. He manipulates the data to calculate the percentage value and 
> > >average 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > frequency of occurrence for each of the 14 letters in each verse of 
> > > > > the 
> > > >Quran. 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > For the multi-lettered Quranic initials, such as Ta Ha, Ta Sin and Ya 
> >Sin, 
> >
> > >he 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > calculates the absolute frequency of occurrence, percentage of the 
> > >frequency 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > value for each of the 114 Surahs, and the average occurrence per 
> > > > > verse 
> >for 
> >
> > 
> > > >each 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > of the multi-lettered Quranic initials in each sura. Finally he 
> > > > > arranges 
> 
> > >all 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > >the 
> > > > >
> > > > > Surahs of the Quran in the ascending order of the absolute frequency 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > occurrence of each Quranic initial and percentage frequency of 
> > > > > occurrence 
> >
> > >for 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > each of the 14 sets of Quranic initials. What does Khalifa find? That 
> > > > > the 
> >
> > > > > chapters which begin with the Quranic initials also contain the 
> > > > > highest 
> > > > > frequency of the specific letters used at the beginning of the Surah. 
> > > > > For 
> >
> > > > > example, Surah Qaf contains the highest frequency of the letter qaf 
> > > > > than 
> 
> > >any 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > other Surah of the Quran or there is not one Surah in the Quran where 
> > > > > all 
> >
> > > >three 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > values of nun are higher than their counterparts in the 
> > > > > non-initialled 
> > >Surah, 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > al-Qqalam. The analysis for Quranci initials Alif Lam Mim which occur 
> > > > > in 
> 
> > >four 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Makkan and two Medinan Surahs shows that the four Makkan Surahs are 
> > >superior 
> > >
> > > >to 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > all Makkan Surahs in the overall frequency of Alif Lam Mim.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what can we conclude from this? In Khalifa's own words:
> > > > > "The Qur'anic initials as a whole have shown us that every word, 
> > > > > indeed 
> > >every 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > letter, in the Qur'an was carefully calculated. The Qur'an itself 
> > > > > states 
> 
> > >this 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > fact very clearly in the first verse of Surah HudPlacement of the 
> >Qur'anic 
> >
> > 
> > > > > initials in their specific locations proves the existence of advance 
> > > >knowledge 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > of the distribution pattern of the alphabet throughout the Qur'an. No 
> > > > > one 
> >
> > >can 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > claim that such advance knowledge is attainable by man; any man.
> > > > > 
> > > > > To translate this into physical, tangible evidence, the computer was 
> >asked 
> >
> > >to 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > calculate the number of manipulations one should master in order to 
> > > > > write 
> >a 
> >
> > >
> > > > > mathematically controlled book such as the Qur'an. The composition of 
> > > > > the 
> >
> > > > >Qur'an 
> > > > >
> > > > > involves 114 chapters where 14 alphabet letters were distributed 
> >according 
> >
> > >to 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > specific combinations. According to the well known mathematical 
> > > > > formula, 
> 
> > >the 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > number of manipulations involved in this case equals 11414This value, 
> > > > > 626,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,(626b septillions) is certainly 
> >beyond 
> >
> > 
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > capacity of any creature, including today's most sophisticated 
> > > > > computers. 
> >
> > > >When 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > we look at this number we can readily appreciate the divine statement 
> > > > > in 
> 
> > > >Surah 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > Al-Isra (The Night Journey), verse 88 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬" Say, if 
> >all the humans 
> >
> > >and all 
> > >
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > >jinns 
> > > > >
> > > > > banded together in order to produce a verse like this, they will 
> > > > > surely 
> > >fail. 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Furthermore, this is the number of controlled manipulations of a 
> > > > > specific 
> >
> > > > > distribution pattern of the alphabet, without placing them in useful 
> > > >sentences. 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To place these mathematically distributed alphabetic letters in 
> > > > > useful 
> > > > >sentences 
> > > > >
> > > > > is another complete job"
> > > > > 
> > > > > On the basis of his analysis, Khalifa can also prove that the present 
> >order 
> >
> > >
> > > >of 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > recording the Qur'anic chapters is divinely inspired, the locations 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > revelation of the Qur'anic chapters, whether Makkan or Medinan, can 
> > > > > be 
> > >proved 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >to 
> > > > >
> > > > > be correct, the Qur'an's specific way of dividing each Surah into 
> > > > > verses 
> >is 
> >
> > >
> > > > > divinely prescribed ("the average per verse value is a highly 
> > > > > significant 
> >
> > > > > property throughout the Qur'an"), that the opening statement 
> > > > > "Bismillah 
> > > > > r-Rahmani-r-Rahim" (In the name of God, the Compassionate, the 
> > > > > Merciful) 
> >is 
> >
> > >
> > > >an 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > integral part of each Surah, except Surah Al-Tawba and even the 
> >particular 
> >
> > 
> > > >way 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > of spelling certain words in the Qur'an has a mathematical 
> > > > > significance.
> > > > > 
> > > > > All this adds nothing to the sum of our knowledge. It does, however 
> >equate 
> >
> > 
> > > > > Qur'anic truth with the mathematical `truth' and makes the Qur'an 
> > > > > appear 
> 
> > >more 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > and more like a contemporary data-base. From here, it appears, the 
> > > > > next 
> > > >logical 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > stop ought to be to present the Qur'an as a scientific text book. And 
> > >Afzalur 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Rahman (Qur'anic Sciences, The Muslim schools Trust, London 1981) has 
> > >obliged 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >us 
> > > > >
> > > > > with exactly that. Rahman, whose knowledge of science as well as his 
> > > > > understanding of the Qur'an is on a par with a child at nursery 
> > > > > school: 
> > >"The 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > Qur'an provides a complete picture of the material universe and what 
> > > > > is 
> > > >beyond 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > in a scientific and rational manner, appealing to the scientific and 
> > >rational 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > manner, appealing to the scientific mind as well as to the ordinary 
> > >layman." 
> > >
> > > >He 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > finds almost every secondary school science subject, from heat, 
> > > > > light, 
> > >sound 
> > >
> > > >to 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > even electricity, in the Qur'an and presents them as a long list of 
> >subject 
> >
> > >
> > > > > headings with appropriate Qu'ranic quotations. The book is meant to 
> > > > > be 
> >used 
> >
> > >
> > > >in 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > schools (and probably is) and prepare the next generation of Muslims 
> > > > >scientists!
> > > > > 
> > > > > The only thing now left for Bucaillism is to be institutionalised and 
> > > > >introduced 
> > > > >
> > > > > in the school curricula. Muhammad Abdus Sami and Muslim Sajjad 
> > > > > (Planning 
> 
> > > > > Curricula for Natural Sciences: The Islamic Perspective, Institute of 
> > >Policy 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > Studies, Islamabad, 1983) have produced a plan to accomplish this 
> > > > > goal. 
> > >Every 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > chapter of every textbook on physics, chemistry, biology and Zoology 
> >should 
> >
> > >
> > > > > contain the appropriate verse from the Qur'an. But unlike Rahman, the 
> > > > > two 
> >
> > > > > Pakistani scientists foresee some problems: for example, how are we 
> > > > > going 
> >
> > >to 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > treat the theory of evolution? "This theory seeks to provide 
> > > > > essentially 
> >a 
> >
> > 
> > > > > rational belief in God." Maybe there are, after all, a few things in 
> > >science 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > that do not tally with what the Qur'an tells us!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bucaillism appeals particularly to the older generation of Muslim 
> > >scientists, 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > scholars and intellectuals because of its psychological message 
> > > > > value. It 
> >
> > > > > reinforces their faith in the Qur'an and Islam on the one hand, and 
> > >confirms 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > their belief in the superiority and universal validity of western 
> >science, 
> >
> > >on 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the other. Their naivete is well reflected by Candide: "all is well 
> > > > > in 
> >this 
> >
> > >
> > > > >best 
> > > > >
> > > > > of all possible worlds."
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, the dangers inherent in Bucaillism are very grave. There is 
> > > > > the 
> 
> > > > >obvious 
> > > > >
> > > > > fact that it generates a strangely dumbfounding theology 
> >ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬" as 
> >
> > >all 
> > >
> > > >scientific 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > knowledge is contained in the Qur'an, simply studying the Qur'an from 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > scientific perspective will reveal everything and lead to new 
> > > > > theories 
> >and 
> >
> > 
> > > > > discoveries. While the Qur'an obviously contains some passing 
> > > > > references 
> >to 
> >
> > >
> > > > > natural facts, it is by no means a textbook of science. It is a book 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > guidance. It provides motivation and only motivation, for the pursuit 
> > > > > of 
> 
> > > > > knowledge. Knowledge begins with the Qur'an and does not end with it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But, more importantly, by equating the Qur'an with science, 
> > > > > Bucaillism 
> > > >elevates 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > science to the realm of the sacred and makes Divine Revelation 
> > > > > subject to 
> >
> > >the 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > verification of western science. Apart form the fact that the Qur'an 
> >needs 
> >
> > >no 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > justification from modern science, Bucaillism opens the Qur'an to the 
> > >counter 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > argument of Popper's criteria of refutation: would the Qur'an be 
> > > > > proved 
> > >false 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > and written off just as Bucaille writes off the Bible, if a 
> > > > > particular 
> > > > > scientific fact does not tally with it or if a particular fact 
> > > > > mentioned 
> >in 
> >
> > >
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Qur'an is refuted by modern science? And what if a particular theory, 
> >which 
> >
> > >
> > > >is 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > "confirmed" by the Qur'an and is in vogue today is abandoned tomorrow 
> > > > > for 
> >
> > > > > another theory that presents an opposite picture? Does that mean that 
> > > > > the 
> >
> > > > >Qur'an 
> > > > >
> > > > > is valid today but will not be valid tomorrow?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Moreover, by raising science to the level of sacred knowledge, 
> > > > > Bucaillism 
> >
> > > > > effectively undermines any criticism of science. Because the pursuit 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > knowledge is so strongly emphasised in the Qur'an, most Muslim 
> > > > > scientists 
> >
> > > > > already possess a sense of reverence towards modern science. 
> > > > > Bucaillism 
> > >takes 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > this reverence to a new level: a whole generation of Muslim 
> > > > > scientists do 
> >
> > >not 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > just accept all science as Good and True, but attack anyone who shows 
> > > > > a 
> > > > >critical 
> > > > >
> > > > > or sceptical attitude towards science. Furthermore, the belief in a 
> > > >universally 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > beneficial science leads to a pestiferous kind of fatalism: since 
> > > > > science 
> >
> > >is 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > universal and for the benefit of all humankind, it will eventually 
> > > > > make 
> >its 
> >
> > >
> > > >way 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > to Muslim societies and serve their needs!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Science is not the pursuit of Truth and its "discoveries", and 
> > > > > "facts" do 
> >
> > > >not, 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > and cannot have the same validity as the verse of the Qur'an. Science 
> > > > > is 
> >a 
> >
> > 
> > > > > problem solving enterprise: it is a method, a technique, for solving 
> > >problems 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > within a given paradigm and worldview. Just as Abdus Sami and Sajjad 
> > > > > find 
> >
> > > >that 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the theory of evolution is a rational attempt to undermine belief in 
> > > > > God, 
> >a 
> >
> > >
> > > > > great deal in the modern system of science is an exercise in control 
> > > > > and 
> 
> > > > > domination of nature and men. When Bacon said that nature yields her 
> > >secrets 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > under torture, he made torture and suppression an integral and 
> > > > > legitimate 
> >
> > > >part 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > of modern science. Science, as it exists and is practised today, is 
> > >designed 
> > >
> > > >to 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > keep a particular culture and its worldview dominant. Reading the 
> > > > > verses 
> >of 
> >
> > >
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Qur'an into modern science is not going to change its essential 
> > > > > character 
> >
> > >and 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > style.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That there is something magically objective and neutral about the 
> > >Scientific 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > Method is a cruel hoax; and bias-free observation is a myth. Nothing 
> > > > > "out 
> >
> > > > >there" 
> > > > >
> > > > > can be perceived without filtering it through our worldview and 
> > > > > culture. 
> 
> > > > > Scientists too often modify their observation with their own ideas 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > prejudices, values and norms of their society. Not just observation 
> > > > > but 
> > > > > experimentation too cannot be made in a cultural vacuum, but have 
> > > > > meaning 
> >
> > >and 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > significance solely in the framework of a theory itself set in the 
> > >conceptual 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > picture of a worldview. Putting a theory into a mathematical code 
> > > > > does 
> >not 
> >
> > 
> > > > >strip 
> > > > >
> > > > > the value content of a proposition of modern science. On the 
> > > > > contrary, 
> >the 
> >
> > 
> > > > > nature of mathematics is such that its application to the world 
> > > > > through 
> > > >science 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > is purely fortuitous. Mathematical propositions, including the 
> > > > > geometric 
> 
> > > > > propositions of Euclid, are a priori analytic 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬" 
> >that is to say, 
> >
> > >that 
> > >
> > > >their 
> > > >
> > > > > status is determined merely by analysing the term of the proposition. 
> >That 
> >
> > 
> > > >one 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > plus one equals two can be determined as conforming to the principle 
> > > > > that 
> >
> > >one 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > plus one means two. That some theories can be codified in 
> > > > > mathematical 
> > > > > expression is a matter of scientific convenience. The laws of nature 
> > > > > are 
> 
> > >not 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > expressed in mathematical formulae, in indelible ink across the 
> > > > > heavens; 
> 
> > >they 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > are manufactured in ballpoints in laboratories and institutes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The fact that some of these manufactured laws and theories agree with 
> >what 
> >
> > 
> > > >the 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > Qur'an says is not in itself of any significance. It is a 
> > > > > non-statement. 
> 
> > >The 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > Qur'an promotes the pursuit of knowledge within a framework of 
> > > > > values: it 
> >
> > >is 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > these values which should be the focus of our attention and which 
> > > > > should 
> 
> > > >shape 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > our scientific activity. Only by turning these values into a living 
> >reality 
> >
> > >
> > > >can 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > we truly be honest to the Qur'an and fulfil our obligations towards 
> > > > > it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > References
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. April 1985.
> > > > > 2. Including, Africa Events May 1985.
> > > > > 3. The Supreme Council of Islamic Affairs, 1961.
> > > > > 6. The Quran and Mental Hygiene, Karachi, undated.
> > > > > 7. Seghers, Paris, 1976; and North American Trust Publication, 
> > >Indianapolis, 
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > 1978.
> > > > > 
> > > > > From
> > > > > This essay appeared in Inquiry Vol 2 No 8 37-41 August 1985
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