On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 09:25, Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the link to the other survey. That's pretty good.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:27 PM 'Tom Lee' via Prometheus Users <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Reading between the lines it sounds like we're *potentially* talking
>> about a broader/larger "State of Clojure
>> <https://clojure.org/news/2020/02/20/state-of-clojure-2020>" type thing
>> for Prometheus. Is that accurate?
>>
>> Certainly don't mind the results being public. My only real concern is
>> timelines: we were hoping to use some of the raw data to help advise some
>> load testing on our end, and things are already looking pretty aggressive.
>> If we're looking at something that's going to take weeks or more to start
>> seeing results rolling in we probably won't quite get the data we were
>> hoping to get in time. From a purely selfish perspective we'd be pretty
>> disappointed to go forward without data from "the source", so to speak. Of
>> course, I totally understand the team's actions here. I'm just whining to
>> myself.
>>
>> Timelines aside, we'd be excited to see something "official" in the
>> longer term. It would be useful for engineers like myself, and I know there
>> are product managers and research folks lurking our virtual halls who would
>> love such readily available data for future efforts.
>>
>> The questions from our survey:
>>
>>    - Roughly how many Prometheus *servers* are you operationally
>>    responsible for?
>>    - Of all the Prometheus servers that you are responsible for, which
>>    version would you say is the most widely deployed?
>>
>>  The first two questions are good. I might modify the first one to
> clarify with/without HA. For example, we have 21 Prometheus servers, but 7
> of those are duplicates for HA.
>
>>
>>    - How many unique metrics are reporting across all of your Prometheus
>>    servers?
>>    - How many unique *timeseries* are reporting across all of your
>>    Prometheus servers?
>>
>> These two need to be clarified for Prometheus. We tend to use the terms
> metrics and time-series interchangeably. Are you asking about unique metric
> names?
>
>>
>>    - If you use Grafana to visualize your Prometheus data, what version
>>    of Grafana do you typically use?
>>    - What value do you typically use for the "scrape_interval" config
>>    setting in your Prometheus servers?
>>    - Is there anything else you would like to tell us about your
>>    Prometheus deployment(s)? For example, interesting challenges, pain 
>> points,
>>    or quirks of your configuration?
>>
>> I have a few additional questions that could be added to the list.
>
> * How many unique exporter/target types do you have?
> * What is your samples/second ingestion rate across all Prometheus servers?
> * What is your general metric retention time?
> * Do you use external storage (Federation/remote_write/etc)
> * If yes, which external storage system(s)?
>

I'd be also interested in what versions of Java/Python are in use, and in
particular what are the oldest JVM versions that users are using the
jmx_exporter with.

Brian


>
>
>> Look forward to whatever might eventuate here, those big community
>> surveys are always a lot of fun to read through.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tom
>>
>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:25 AM Richard Hartmann <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> after some internal deliberation, we think it would be unfair to give
>>> any single survey our official blessing, and running more than once
>>> every, say, year seems to be too much for users, too. On the other
>>> hand, user surveys make sense for everyone.
>>>
>>> Would you be OK with sending your questions to
>>> [email protected] or as a reply in this thread? We
>>> would then publish them for comments/feedback and run the survey under
>>> the Prometheus umbrella, sharing replies publicly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:44 PM 'Tom Lee' via Prometheus Users
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Understood Julius, appreciate the transparency. Thank you!
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:37 PM Julius Volz <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Tom,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for checking in first! We're currently discussing within the
>>> Prometheus Team how we would prefer to handle such requests in general (so
>>> that things remain fair between companies, etc.) and will get back to you
>>> as soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Julius
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 7:21 PM 'Tom Lee' via Prometheus Users <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi folks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Full disclosure: I'm an engineer from New Relic (
>>> https://newrelic.com/). We've been looking into improving our open
>>> source monitoring story and Prometheus is a key piece of that. Right now,
>>> though, there are some pieces of the puzzle that we can't easily dig into
>>> without more input from the Prometheus community at large.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is this mailing list an okay place to send a Google Forms type
>>> survey with maybe half a dozen questions? And if not, can folks suggest
>>> somewhere that might be more appropriate?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Tom
>>> >>>
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>>> >>
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