On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:01 AM Brian Brazil < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 09:25, Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for the link to the other survey. That's pretty good. >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:27 PM 'Tom Lee' via Prometheus Users < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Richard, >>> >>> Reading between the lines it sounds like we're *potentially* talking >>> about a broader/larger "State of Clojure >>> <https://clojure.org/news/2020/02/20/state-of-clojure-2020>" type thing >>> for Prometheus. Is that accurate? >>> >>> Certainly don't mind the results being public. My only real concern is >>> timelines: we were hoping to use some of the raw data to help advise some >>> load testing on our end, and things are already looking pretty aggressive. >>> If we're looking at something that's going to take weeks or more to start >>> seeing results rolling in we probably won't quite get the data we were >>> hoping to get in time. From a purely selfish perspective we'd be pretty >>> disappointed to go forward without data from "the source", so to speak. Of >>> course, I totally understand the team's actions here. I'm just whining to >>> myself. >>> >>> Timelines aside, we'd be excited to see something "official" in the >>> longer term. It would be useful for engineers like myself, and I know there >>> are product managers and research folks lurking our virtual halls who would >>> love such readily available data for future efforts. >>> >>> The questions from our survey: >>> >>> - Roughly how many Prometheus *servers* are you operationally >>> responsible for? >>> - Of all the Prometheus servers that you are responsible for, which >>> version would you say is the most widely deployed? >>> >>> The first two questions are good. I might modify the first one to >> clarify with/without HA. For example, we have 21 Prometheus servers, but 7 >> of those are duplicates for HA. >> >>> >>> - How many unique metrics are reporting across all of your >>> Prometheus servers? >>> - How many unique *timeseries* are reporting across all of your >>> Prometheus servers? >>> >>> These two need to be clarified for Prometheus. We tend to use the terms >> metrics and time-series interchangeably. Are you asking about unique metric >> names? >> >>> >>> - If you use Grafana to visualize your Prometheus data, what version >>> of Grafana do you typically use? >>> - What value do you typically use for the "scrape_interval" config >>> setting in your Prometheus servers? >>> - Is there anything else you would like to tell us about your >>> Prometheus deployment(s)? For example, interesting challenges, pain >>> points, >>> or quirks of your configuration? >>> >>> I have a few additional questions that could be added to the list. >> >> * How many unique exporter/target types do you have? >> * What is your samples/second ingestion rate across all Prometheus >> servers? >> * What is your general metric retention time? >> * Do you use external storage (Federation/remote_write/etc) >> * If yes, which external storage system(s)? >> > > I'd be also interested in what versions of Java/Python are in use, and in > particular what are the oldest JVM versions that users are using the > jmx_exporter with. > If we're getting that specific I'd be worried there'd be a lot of other questions in that specificity category. But if it's only these couple it would be fine. > Brian > > >> >> >>> Look forward to whatever might eventuate here, those big community >>> surveys are always a lot of fun to read through. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Tom >>> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:25 AM Richard Hartmann < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tom, >>>> >>>> after some internal deliberation, we think it would be unfair to give >>>> any single survey our official blessing, and running more than once >>>> every, say, year seems to be too much for users, too. On the other >>>> hand, user surveys make sense for everyone. >>>> >>>> Would you be OK with sending your questions to >>>> [email protected] or as a reply in this thread? We >>>> would then publish them for comments/feedback and run the survey under >>>> the Prometheus umbrella, sharing replies publicly. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:44 PM 'Tom Lee' via Prometheus Users >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Understood Julius, appreciate the transparency. Thank you! >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:37 PM Julius Volz < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi Tom, >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks for checking in first! We're currently discussing within the >>>> Prometheus Team how we would prefer to handle such requests in general (so >>>> that things remain fair between companies, etc.) and will get back to you >>>> as soon. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards, >>>> >> Julius >>>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 7:21 PM 'Tom Lee' via Prometheus Users < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hi folks, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Full disclosure: I'm an engineer from New Relic ( >>>> https://newrelic.com/). We've been looking into improving our open >>>> source monitoring story and Prometheus is a key piece of that. Right now, >>>> though, there are some pieces of the puzzle that we can't easily dig into >>>> without more input from the Prometheus community at large. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Is this mailing list an okay place to send a Google Forms type >>>> survey with maybe half a dozen questions? And if not, can folks suggest >>>> somewhere that might be more appropriate? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Cheers, >>>> >>> Tom >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Prometheus Users" group. >>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/b48e651a-b264-4ade-8eb8-7dc7eec11b15%40googlegroups.com >>>> . >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Julius Volz >>>> >> PromLabs - promlabs.com >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Prometheus Users" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAMUmz5j6aqwyJ8aDmFvggkD%2BeTpMMLzM0zTp1kXgnFP%2Bd%3Dw5fQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Richard >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Prometheus Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAMUmz5gNNk4naMFLJ_cWQJQO5g1pGVTZnn74FF4PV%3DHOmhpTqw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAMUmz5gNNk4naMFLJ_cWQJQO5g1pGVTZnn74FF4PV%3DHOmhpTqw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Prometheus Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CABbyFmqGobiq7NUF-jzqGXOphhG8JjYrb%3D19C5Sm6W5CctmquA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CABbyFmqGobiq7NUF-jzqGXOphhG8JjYrb%3D19C5Sm6W5CctmquA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > Brian Brazil > www.robustperception.io > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prometheus Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAHJKeLpMkTe0LU_MiTEe9BgDCDAtQ7BCVaiXtjPRzoQ4FO1WTA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAHJKeLpMkTe0LU_MiTEe9BgDCDAtQ7BCVaiXtjPRzoQ4FO1WTA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Users" group. 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