Hi Brian, It might be one of those things where ignorance is halting interest. I don't have any knowledge of IPL (hence the ignorance aspect) so I don't know what I'm missing. If Peder would enlighten this group as to the benefit of IPL, we might say: "WOW, that's great, yeah Brian, do it!!"
But until I have time to look into what IPL is all about, I have no comment about having any interest. :( T > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:28 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] SV: An IPL to Protel footprint converter - step #2 > > > I'm sorry Peder K. Hellegaard, > > But, no one seems to have interest in the foot print > converter. It would be odd for me to make a public domain > translator when you would be the only user. > > My 4 questions were very general & I would have done the > leg work myself, but, with so little interest, it seems that > the IPL standard is not considered any useful. Or, at least > to Protel users... > > I hope my other Protel scripts can help you out. > > ____________ > Brian Guralnick > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (514) 624-4003 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peder K. Hellegaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:02 AM > Subject: [PEDA] SV: An IPL to Protel footprint converter - step #2 > > > > FOR GODS SAKE, - HELP THE MAN OUT........ > > > > I do ofcourse say that since I first asked for the tool. > > > > There are many skilled guys out there with the information nedded. > > > > > > > > Peder Hellegaard > > > > > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sendt: 16. september 2002 22:26 > > Til: Protel EDA Forum > > Emne: Re: [PEDA] An IPL to Protel footprint converter - step #2 > > > > > > OK, I want to make a decision whether or not to proceed & make the > > 'IPL-2-Protel.bas' footprint converter. > > > > I've decided that I will do it, or not, this weekend. I > still need my > > main questions answered, otherwise, I will not proceeded. > > > > Re-read, I've added some comments... > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Q1: Is IPL the adopted standard that IC manufactures will use for > > footprint distribution? Or is it something I would only > end up using > > If I owned another cad package like Orcad for translation > to Protel... > > > > Q2: Does the IPL standard create a schematic library component as > > well? This would be the most useful for me. It would require names > > for the pins within the IPL file. Coordinates would also > be helpful, > > but, I'm sure I can still synthesize a pin positioning algorithm. > > > > Q4: Are there any competing standards emerging? EG, maybe I should > > make a Gerber2Protel footprint converter. It would take the Gerber > > footprint, & number out the pins based on location. > > > > > > ____________ > > Brian Guralnick > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (514) 624-4003 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 3:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint converter - step #2 > > > > > > > OK, step #2 before I start. > > > > > > I took a look at the sample IPL files which Peder K. > Hellegaard > > > has > > sent me. There shouldn't be any problems synthesizing a > > > translator. Though I've heard of IPL through this forum, it is > > > completely > > new to me. I have yet to see any supplied IPL > > footprints > > > by any IC manufactures. > > > > > > Before I start, I need to know a few things: > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Q1: Is IPL the adopted standard that IC manufactures will use for > > footprint distribution? Or is it something I would only end up > > > using If I owned another cad package like Orcad for translation to > > Protel... > > > > > > Q2: Does the IPL standard create a schematic library component as > > > well? > > > > > > Q3: I noticed that these sample files do not contain a > '.suffix'. > > > Just a > > '-s'. Is this standard? > > > > > > Q4: Are there any competing standards emerging? > > > > > > Thing I need to continue: > > > -------------------------------- > > > I need a bunch of IPL components decoded within another cad > > > package > > converted to Gerber for comparison. Just 1 Gerber with 1 > > > part at a time for comparison. Anyone out there who can do this, > > > please > > email me zipped examples to my new hotmail account: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > I would like links to component manufactures publicly > posted IPL > > > files > > & .pdf docs so I may further test the converter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ > > > Brian Guralnick > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (514) 624-4003 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:29 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint converter > > > > > > > > > > Brian sure is building a large "You owe me a beer" tab > around the > > > > world! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:33 AM > > > > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint converter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No problem, I'll take a look this weekend. > Please keep in > > > > > mind that this will be another 1 of my public domain, free > > > > > - to - all Client Basic scripts. I'll get all of the basic > > > > > fundament functionality working (basically run the > script, enter > > > > > the source IPL file & voila, there's the spec-ed foot-print), > > > > > probably, someone else might add fancier menus and other > > > > > stuff... > > > > > > > > > > ____________ > > > > > Brian Guralnick > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > (514) 624-4003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Peder K. Hellegaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:13 AM > > > > > Subject: Footprint converter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brian. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > What I can deliver is some IPL files so you can see the > > > > > > filecontens and ofcourse also the P999SE library > files but I > > > > > > assume you already have some of these. I have > attached a few > > > > > > IPL files for your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can do this job, I subsequently need a > > > > > > netlisttranslator. > > > > > > > > > > > > What the customer provides is: > > > > > > > > > > > > - The IPL footprint files. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Netlistfile in Veribest format. (This file ofcourse > > > > > contain the nets > > > > > > but not the footprint names. Instead of the > footprint names, a > > > > > > stocknumber is listed). > > > > > > > > > > > > - A crossreference file that shows the coherence > between above > > > > > > mentioned stocknumber and the IPL footprint name (which is > > > > > the same as > > > > > > the IPL footprint filename, since the footprints > are saved in > > > > > > individual files) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the above data, I first need to convert the IPL > > > > > footprint files > > > > > > to a P99SE pcb library file format. Then I have a complete > > > > > > library consisting of footprints. Please note: It must be > > > > > > possible to subsequently add new footprints to this file. > > > > > > > > > > > > After that, I need to translate the data from the Veribest > > > > > > netlist file and the crossreference file to a P99SE netlist > > > > > > format. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does above make sense to you........???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Med venlig hilsen / Best regards from > > > > > > > > > > > > Peder Hellegaard > > > > > > > > > > > > Mediatronic Engineering ApS > > > > > > Kisumvej 9 > > > > > > 7800 Skive > > > > > > Denmark > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: +45 9616 6192 > > > > > > Fax: +45 9616 6120 > > > > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Web: www.mediatronic.dk <http://www.mediatronic.dk/> > > > > > > =========================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ > > > > > Brian Guralnick > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > (514) 624-4003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 12:47 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint converter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sound like a worthy ClientBasic script for me to > build. Can > > > > > > anyone provide with the IPL specs? > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ > > > > > > Brian Guralnick > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Voice (514) 624-4003 > > > > > > Fax (514) 624-3631 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Peder K. 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