I wouldn't agree with that, FPGA is kinda like Windows was in the mid 90's, the CAD that didn't make the transition either died or suffered. That's probably the main reaon PADS is #1, they were the first to be a true Windows ap. The others that didn't do it died, the ones that didn't do it quick enough floundered. Some stiil haven't done it right. With you guys refusing to move off your precious 99SE to DXP there wouldn't be anybody that wants DXP other than those who want it for it's FPGA capability. DXP is not efficient enough for board layout only, it has to offer SOMETHING other than it's low cost to hook people. They are trying to be a complete solution for the 21st century but you guys are stuck in the 1980's. Bring back the DOS version! may as well bring back mylar and tape!

PH

From: "-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PEDA] SV: Licenses
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:03:32 +0200


If Altium/Protel had spent their development resources on their core
business (SCH + PCB design tools) instead of believeing they could conquer
the market providing all other dev. tools (simulation, fpga etc), they would
have been no. 1 today.


Regards

A former Protel reseller


-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. juni 2004 21:47 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: [PEDA] Licenses


Altiums Protel will never be number 1, it is just too cumbersome. Fine for people who have plenty of time but little $$

PH

>From: "Joe Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses
>Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:56:57 -0400
>
>Mike,
>
>I doubt that PADS schematic can overtake anything....end comment
>
>With regard to Orcad yes in it's day (DOS) it was the absolute best, hands
>down. Something happened when it went to Windows then Cadence bought them
>and well..
>
>
>Joe
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses
>
>
> >
> > That is pretty interesting data gathered here. The interesting part is
>that
> > Cadence has been successful in trashing OrCAD from number 1 to a has
>been.
> > I doubt if PADs schematic has overtaken OrCad.
> >
> > Mike Reagan
> > EDSI
> > Frederick MD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Hausherr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:30 PM
> > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > I just talked to Mentor Graphics PADS division and they say that since
>the
> > 1st release of PADS Software in 1985 they have logged 85,000 licenses.
> > PowerLogic (schematic) and PowerPCB (layout) are separate licenses.
> >
> > There are currently 18,000 PADS-PowerPCB seats on yearly maintenance.
> >
> > It's my personal guess that there are about 35,000 PADS-PowerPCB seats
>in
> > use. There are many people using old licenses that are not on yearly
> > maintenance due to financial hardships over the past 4 years.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Tom Hausherr
> > PCB Libraries
> > CEO, Director of Technology
> > 858.592.4826 Phone
> > 847.745.0450 Fax
> > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Website: http://www.PCBLibraries.com & http://www.PCBYellowPages.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:50 AM
> > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> >
> > I wonder just how many licensed seats there are of Protel in the
>world....
> > is that published anywhere?
> > Also I wonder if Pads has published the same info?
> >
> > I didn't participate in the poll so it's at least off by one.
> > LOL...
> >
> > I would venture to say Protel may have more seats that Pads... but they
>are
> > mostly not in the Southwest of the U.S.
> >
> > How about it Altium... how many active seats of Protel are there?
> >
> >
> > Bill Brooks
> > PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
> > Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
> > http://pcbwizards.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> >
> > According to what statistical method?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Hausherr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:09 PM
> > > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> > >
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > We took a poll and Protel is number two in worldwide
> > > installations (behind PADS).
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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