El sábado, 21 de junio de 2008 a las 17:29:53 +0200, s...@riseup.net escribía:
> Se da miña mensaxe deduces outra cousa entón deberías darlle unha volta
> máis por que ninguén se está metendo contigo e pola túa reacción
> parecería que sí. Xa teño notado que por algún motivo o que eu escrebo
> aféctate especialmente, e ben que me coido de evitar ferir
> susceptibilidades. A miña única referencia a tí foi pra recoñecer o valor
> do teu traballo, considera iso.
Resumo da túa mensaxe: "creamos a comunidade de traductores en Debian, pero
por algún motivo impedíronnos traballar, como se demostra pola inactividade
da lista. O único motivo que se me ocorre é esta mensaxe de Jacobo. A culpa
é vosa. A lista ha continuar inactiva ata que deixedes de sabotearnos."
Creo que está claro dabondo.
Adxunto a mensaxe por se alguén quere comparar o meu resumo co contido
orixinal da mensaxe.
Jacobo Tarrío | http://jacobo.tarrio.org/
Yes... and you are not the only one who can see that. Indeed, that
"inactivity" is one of the reasons why Galician Government FLOSS Center
has decided to choose Ubuntu instead of Debian as the base of its desktop
It is not possible to trust in a software distro whose 'localization
community' means... just one person. Too weak, too vulnerable, too
unsustainable in the long term , as you may easily understand. Unless
you trust in pregnant birds, as the old galician proverb says.
 As an user, I detected that potential danger at December 2006. So
I decided to contribute changing the Debian l10n galician community
status from "non-existant" to "existant". I achieved to attract near
60 motivated volunteers to support the creation of the
debian-l10n-galician _public_ mailing list, so it was finally created
in order to stablish an open collaboration channel for all us
interested in Debian localization to galician language.
But: just after the creation of that list, it seems that Debian
internal decission making process decided to exclude their own galician
l10n mailing list from the entire localization workflow, as the
absence of messages in the archive clearly demostrates. Perhaps that
strange behaviour can be based on this:
Even if that is the reason as it is not, the results of your excluding
policy are very visible: you changed the state of the galician l10n
Debian community from "active" (and motivated) to "inactive" (and
As the Coordinator of the Government of Galicia FLOSS Center  that
turns impossible for me to support at the official channels the
convenience of using and investing on a GNU/Linux distro like Debian
which is uncapable to maintain a galician localization community;
specially when the same people subscribed to the debian-l10n-galician
mailing list are succesfuly involved and active in other free software
Of course, my duties as a civil servant will not unallow me to
continue contributing with Debian in a personal way. In this sense, and
as that Debian user who is the founder of the galician l10n debian
mailing list, I might inform you that our list will remain inactive until
you decide to allow galician people to collaborate. Of course if you
prefer to maintain that "inactive" status, I will respect it, even when
it's clearly a wrong decisition in the long term, from my point of view.
All that summarized: Debian exclusive trust in Tarr?o, makes me
trusting in Tarr?o by his valuable contribution, while at the same time
makes me untrusting Debian itself, at least in the i18n part of the
Christian Perrier escrebeu:
> Quoting s...@riseup.net (s...@riseup.net):
> > Hi Nicolas,
> > Galician language missed there.
> Well, as far as we know, the team does not use pseudo-URLs in a
> mailing list to track down work.
> Indeed, debian-l10n-galician is mostly...inactive as far as I can see.
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