Hi Oreo,
Yes that technique works sometimes!
I can't seem to get it to work for renaming busses in the mix window though! ;)
any other control click issues you guys want fixed?
Its bug submit time!
Thanks
Chuck


On May 17, 2017, at 11:28 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> If you are using a physical 2 button mouse you can just right click, no need 
> to hold down control. If you are using a trackpad or a one button apple 
> mouse, then you can hold down control when you do a regular mouse click. 
> 
> Regarding the menu disappearing, in those cases in other apps what I found 
> works is to turn on quick  nav then while still holding the mouse down you 
> can use up and down arrows to read the menu items with VO. 
> 
>> On May 17, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again All,
>> 
>> 
>> So I tried the Oreo Monster's suggestion.   When I hold down control and 
>> right click the physical mouse, VO speaks "Menu, four items, loop audition 
>> ...".   but two questions then arise:  how do I even access that menu?  it 
>> disappears when I release the mouse button, so I can't cursor up and down in 
>> the menu.
>> 
>> 
>> Second, that menu is probably a context menu for the audition button, rather 
>> than for the highlighted file, so the problem remains, how to action a file 
>> that I'm auditioning with up/down arrow?
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps there is no other way than counting as you go, and then returning 
>> with the VO cursor.   Can anybody try to replicate this process and see 
>> whether you find a foolproof method.   I feel like foolproof is the 
>> operative word here, but the hoops we have to jump through ...
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/05/2017 14:27, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> OK, that makes more sense. The contextual menu approach might be helpful 
>>> but, if anything you wish to do involves clicking or dragging, the problem 
>>> will be that lists of files might not necessarily scroll and thus VoiceOver 
>>> can be focused on an item that is beyond the boundaries of the workspace's 
>>> window. I know the Page Up and Down keys do work in workspace windows. The 
>>> trouble is knowing whether something is truly in view. This is one of the 
>>> issues I'll be working on shortly with Avid among other things. Keep us 
>>> posted on your progress.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Slau, and thanks to you and others for replies so far.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> First, to clarify, I do actually want to route the VO cursor to the 
>>>> keyboard cursor, so sorry if I added confusion to an already hard to 
>>>> explain operation.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Second, the import file workaround won't do what I wanted, because as 
>>>> somebody else pointed out, the WorkSpace is the only method which serches 
>>>> through files on all meta-data and across many folders.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thirdly,  I'll try the OreoMonster's right-click idea and report back.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fourthly, here's one more try at explaining the scenario.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> After searching for, say, heavy rain, or whatever it might be, I have 
>>>> maybe a hundred results from a large effects library.   If I press 
>>>> 'audition', then I can down arrow, and quickly hear the start of each 
>>>> file.  But, when I find one I need, I want to route the VO-cursor to it, 
>>>> so that I can use VO-shift-M, which then lets me either spot it to the 
>>>> edit cursor, or reveal it in finder.  At the moment, I have to try to 
>>>> count down the list, and then re-locate it with the VO-cursor.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The right-click method may do the trick and I'll try it ASAP, but if 
>>>> anybody knows a simpler reliable way, please do say.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/05/2017 20:09, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>> The key combination you mention is not used by Flo Tools but, more 
>>>>> importantly, what that combination does is the opposite of what you're 
>>>>> saying you're trying to do. It routes VoiceOver to the keyboard focused 
>>>>> item rather than the other way around. Hope that clears things up.
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure whether this is a FloTools keystroke conflict, but in my 
>>>>>> continuing fight to tame the workspace, which I'll explain below in case 
>>>>>> anyone can help further, I need to route the highlight cursor to the VO 
>>>>>> cursor. The keystroke for this should be VO-shift-F4, but when I press 
>>>>>> that VO speaks "presets", and the routing doesn't happen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Be that as it may, I've been trying for months now to find a really good 
>>>>>> workflow for auditioning files from the workspace window.   Thanks to 
>>>>>> your suggestions so far, I'm further on than I was, so using hot-spots 
>>>>>> helps a lot, but still, when I have a hundred or more files to audition, 
>>>>>> what I'm trying to do is quickly hear the beginning of each file whilst 
>>>>>> arrowing down. This works, but when I then find a file I want to use, I 
>>>>>> can't easily use the context-menu to 'reveal in finder' for example, 
>>>>>> because the VO-cursor doesn't follow the arrowing.  That is why I was 
>>>>>> hoping to route the VO-cursor to the list, but no joy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you're still with me, then thanks for your patience, and can you 
>>>>>> suggest any work-around or method to make this process more productive?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> 
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