On Mar 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Felix Sasaki <felix.sas...@fh-potsdam.de> wrote:

The spec itself looks fine. It seems that the schema at
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-schema/widgets.rnc
is not up to date yet. It still contains the *ITS* dir attribute, e.g. at

elem.author = element author {
    attr.xmllang?,
    attr.itsdir?,
    attribute href { xsd:anyURI }?,
    attribute email { xsd:string { pattern="....@.+" } }?,
    text?
}

I think you need to rename attr.itsdir to attr.dir , and change
attr.itsdir = attribute its:dir { "ltr" | "rtl" | "lro" | "rlo" }
to
attr.dir = attribute dir { "ltr" | "rtl" | "lro" | "rlo" }


Thanks Felix, I will update the schema. However, the BIDI spec warns, for security reasons, to avoid the overrides so I didn't include them into our spec. Should I put lro and rlo into the spec regardless? the spec now contains a note about this in the dir section:

    Note:
Under the guidance of the [BIDI] specification, the values that would allow directional overrides in this specifications, namely Left-to- Right Override (LRO) and Right-to-Left Override (RLO), have deliberately been left out of this specification because of security concerns (see [UTR36]). Authors wanting to override the [BIDI] algorithm can do so by using [XML] entities and the appropriate Unicode directional markers.




Best,

Felix

2010/3/26 Richard Ishida <ish...@w3.org>
[Changing the subject to keep the review comment thread clean]

Personally, I think we're ok with the changes.

RI

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Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com]
> Sent: 19 March 2010 11:49
> To: Richard Ishida; Addison Phillips; Felix Sasaki; public-i18n-c...@w3.org
> Cc: public-webapps; Marcos Caceres
> Subject: Re: [widgets] Span example
>
> Richard, Addison, Felix, All,
>
> Based on my conversations with Marcos and reading this thread, it is
> my understanding that you support:
>
> a) the new <span> element and dir attribute model Marcos added to the
> Widget P&C spec [P&C-ED] and consequently,
>
> b) the removal of the ITS references that were in the December CR
> [P&C-CR].
>
> Would you please confirm this or if my understanding is not correct,
> please elaborate on any remaining issues?
>
> Also, if you have any feedback on the 60 related test cases Marcos
> created, please reply to the thread he used to announce those test
> cases:
>
>   [widgets] dir and span tests
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/
> 0845.html
>
> -Thanks, Art Barstow
>
> [P&C-ED] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/
> [P&C-CR] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-widgets-20091201/
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:15 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:
>
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > Added the example at:
> > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#span
> >
> > Please see also the examples for the dir attribute:
> > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#dir
> >
> > Thanks again for all your time and help!
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Richard Ishida <ish...@w3.org> wrote:
> >> [This is a continuation of one part of the http://lists.w3.org/
> >> Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0043.html thread.]
> >>
> >> It addresses the comment:
> >>
> >> [[      7.16. The span Element  http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/
> >> #the-span-element-and-its-attributes
> >> [2] I think the example could be improved by having something
> >> inside the span with punctuation (eg. exclamation mark) or such,
> >> and maybe the description should be in English - otherwise you'd
> >> probably want to put the dir on the widget tag and have English in
> >> the span. Should I try to find another example ?
> >> ]] at http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0907-widgets-pc/
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's my proposed example (thanks to Aharon Lanin for helping
> >> with the Hebrew).  I made up something that might appear in a
> >> Hebrew widget, rather than an English one, since it's a little
> >> more realistic.
> >>
> >> <widget
> >>  xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets";
> >>  xml:lang="he" dir="rtl">
> >>  <name xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</name>
> >>  <description
> >>   יישומון ה-<span dir="rtl" xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</
> >> span> מאפשר לך לבדוק את מזג האוויר בכל
> >> נקודת GPS ברחבי העולם.
> >>  </description>
> >> </widget>
> >>
> >> Here's a version ready to drop into HTML (I suggest you copy it as
> >> a unit, to avoid problems with the bidirectional text.)
> >>
> >> &lt;widget
> >>  xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets&quot;
> >>  xml:lang=&quot;he&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;
> >>  &lt;name xml:lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;GPS Weather!&lt;/name&gt;
> >>  &lt;description
> >>   יישומון ה-&lt;span dir=&quot;rtl&quot;
> >> xml:lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;GPS Weather!&lt;/span&gt; מאפשר
> >> לך לבדוק את מזג האוויר בכל נקודת GPS
> >> ברחבי העולם.
> >>  &lt;/description&gt;
> >> &lt;/widget&gt;
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcos Caceres
> > http://datadriven.com.au
> >
>
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