As I recall, on our last call you did not object to reviewing the status of 
pending ballots, you objected to reviewing the results of the topics from our 
F2F meeting the previous week, and whether or not to plan for any follow-up.  
(By the way, after the call I received comments from others that they liked the 
post-F2F meeting review, and wanted to do it again after future F2F meetings, 
so opinions vary.)

We have always used our teleconferences to discuss pending ballots, and often 
you can get more done and reach more agreement by talking and not sending 
endless rounds of email.  I also think we should be sensitive to an issue Peter 
Bowen is trying to address through his proposed Forum Trello board to keep 
track of proposals and ideas – without that, ideas get lost and disappear.  I 
think it’s useful to use a portion of our time each meeting to review the 
status of pending ballots, even if it’s only to look for endorsers or learn 
that a ballot is being dropped.  And if the update from a ballot sponsor is 
“nothing to report”, then that happens pretty quickly.

Having said that, I’m happy to follow what a majority of members want to do 
about pending ballots during meetings – review or not review unless someone 
requests a review.  Let’s discuss on Thursday.

From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 2:49 PM
To: Kirk Hall <[email protected]>
Cc: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Draft Agenda for CABF teleconference April 
27

And on the last call, it was requested we have more actionable objectives for 
these, particularly since the general question is "Any updates"

For example, we could leverage this time before the call to identify what 
ballots have updates, and focus the discussion on those. If there are no 
updates, then knowing before the call is useful. I presume you intend this for 
the Ballot proposer to speak to?

As noted, these calls are an expensive use of everyone's time. As much as 
possible, we should try to optimize for keeping them short and actionable. I'm 
not objecting to discussion if there's items to discuss - I'm just requesting 
we take a more considered approach to our agendas and make sure we only discuss 
things for which there is new information or pertinence to discuss.

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Kirk Hall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We always review the status of ballots.

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