hello,
sorry for changing the subject a little - but does someone know what
happened with the http://puredata.info site? Seems to be down since some
days.

all the best,
björn eriksson



On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Julian Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Felix,
>
> Good to hear you have some joy with pd.
>
> Regarding reverb, there was a recent thread on the pd list about this
> titled "reverb in pd" (check the archives) including one from Claude who is
> one of the pd devs on Puredyne.  The [rev1-3~] externals are also included
> in Puredyne already.
>
> Not sure about the canvas colour stuff, sorry.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
>
>
> On 9 September 2011 18:52, felix nicanor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Julian Brooks wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 September 2011 13:29, felix nicanor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hey Julian, thankyou for your welcome,
>>>
>>
>> no problem.
>>
>>>
>>> I am in Puredyne 911 carrot and coriander dvd version (installed, not
>>> live)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, me too.
>>
>>
>>> and that probably shows me my first error: I wanted to install puredata
>>> extended for karmic 910 (the down below ubuntu version in this link:
>>> http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/pd-extended).
>>>
>>
>> That version wont run on my 64b machine but I have Pde as well as Pd
>> installed on this machine so it is possible.
>>
>> I have a memory of having to change a couple of parameters in the makefile
>> to get it to work.  But it did.  Sorry I'm not more precise, it was a while
>> ago and I don't do much compiling either.  One of the pleasures of Puredyne
>> is that it pretty much all works so it generally doesn't require much
>> fiddling with.  This can also be a negative too.
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I might like the preinstalled version as I understand that it must
>>> be configured precicely and therefore stable and reliable, so I am willing
>>> to give it a try. But I do not understand some problems and differences I
>>> find. I add a path to my abstractions
>>> (/home/felix/mysounds/mypuredata/abstractions) and I accept and it gives me
>>> the same result every time: instead of selecting all the abstractions in
>>> this folder, I don't know why it always choose this path to a folder inside
>>> the one I choose: /home/felix/mysounds/mypuredata/abstractions/rottensound
>>> (in which I only have a few abstractions classified under the "rottensound"
>>> name.
>>>
>>
>> Have you explored the '.pdrc' file?  On my computer it's in /home/julian
>> and you need 'show hidden files' turned on in the folder window. This is
>> where your pd pointing is done I think.  Check if your abstractions are
>> being set to the wrong folder in the .pdrc, just correct/add-to the file and
>> save out, reboot pd.
>>
>> Thank you, it works fine now, it recognizes it all.
>>
>>
>>> The second problem is that I don't know how to install or even find the
>>> abstractions that I am missing (freeverb is the one I noticed)
>>>
>>  Still missing freeverb, but now that the screen has got cleaner it seems
>> to be the only one missing.
>> I found the source in
>> http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/freeverb and now I want
>> to learn how to compile it (the info should be in the documentation, I
>> guess).
>>
>>   , but I guess that both this problems should be posted in the pd list
>>> instead (?), and I believe that this last one might not be difficult to
>>> solve anyway (hope I'm right).
>>>
>>
>> You should be able to find those easily online but I am also aware that Pd
>> still has no satisfactory way of telling you what externals you are
>> missing.  I would recommend checking that all the available libs in Puredyne
>> are definitely booting and then see what, if anything, you are missing.
>>
>> How should I do it? Must I try each one in the /usr/lib/pd/extra folder?
>> Anyway it seems that my patch is quite vanilla. The only external used is
>> freeverb, and this is because I still don't know how to do a reverb by
>> myself (using only what puredata provides)
>>
>>
>> I have compiled a few libs recently and it was pretty painless(pmpd for
>> example), although there are a few that defeated me (cyclone).  As someone
>> has mentioned previously it is possible to just transfer some libs from
>> program to program and across different computers but I guess it should in
>> no way be seen as a sensible solution.
>>
>>>
>>> Something relating Puredyne that I don't get is how do you install a
>>> debian package, I mean, as I tried xubuntu before for a month or two, and as
>>> I realize Puredyne is based in it, how is it that Puredyne does not have the
>>> automatic installing proccess when clicking on a .deb file, just asking for
>>> the needed packages?
>>>
>>
>> You have the 'gDebi' package installer?  Sometimes I add things that I
>> think everyone already has, Ed Kelly recommended having the 'xfce cpu
>> govorner' which is very handy for example.    One of the design aims of
>> Puredyne is to be much lighter than Ubuntu, sometimes that streamlining
>> makes for a more involved interaction with the OS.
>>
>> No, I see it is missing. I'll install it now, but I will continue fixing
>> the already installed pd version. Thank you for the info.
>>
>> I feel that not having it was lucky, as I am getting confortable with not
>> needing a probably not configured, supefluous and redundant pde installment.
>>
>> A difference I would like to understand is that in the extended version I
>> was able to change the colours of the canvas, wires and such by tweaking the
>> pd.tk file in the /usr/lib/pd/bin folder. Now, this version of pd is more
>> like the vanilla one, is it so? the interface colours are defined in a way I
>> do not understand. Do you?
>>
>> about the Puredyne design aim, I really like it, for sure.
>>
>>
>>> Also, when I right click in the download manager in firefox and choose
>>> "open containing folder" why is it asking me to choose a program to open it
>>> with? what should I do then?
>>>
>>
>> Ah yes, that is irritating isn't it.  Your files will be in the download
>> folder /home/blahblah/download, I think.
>>
>> Yes it is, but not a great deal. If you happen to find how to fix it
>> please let me know.
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, I am new to Puredyne (first 36 hours), and again, I am also new
>>> to linux itself (some months), so forgive if my questions are not
>>> intelligent ones. I'll appreciate a lot the gidelines.
>>>
>>
>> Hope you like it - it's really worth persevering with I reckon.  I too am
>> very much Linux-light and perhaps some more knowledgeable list'ers can weigh
>> in to help with your specific problems.  If not, apparently the irc channel
>> is where you can find some of the devs, some of the time.
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you again and best wishes to you too,
>>>
>>
>> Your welcome and kind regards,
>>
>> Julian, you are extremely helpful. Thank you a lot, really
>>
>> Felix
>>
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> Julian Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hey Felix and welcome to the list,
>>>
>>> Well firstly I would say that you should check/search some of the
>>> previous threads - my memory is that there is one from a month or so ago
>>> that walks you through the process (though I haven't tried it myself).  You
>>> should also include which version of Puredyne you have and also which
>>> version of Pde you want to install.
>>>
>>> Also are you aware that the pre-installed version of Pd has many of the
>>> major libs pre-packaged and it may be simpler to just add something if it
>>> isn't already included.  There is also a big bunch of abstractions as well
>>> as external libs so have a good explore.
>>>
>>> All good wishes,
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On 8 September 2011 02:56, felix nicanor <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, I am new to Puredyne and want to install Pd extended, but it doesn't
>>>> show in the repositories and does not work installing the .deb file (I must
>>>> say that I am new to linux too, just in case).
>>>> Could anybody help me in this issue?
>>>> Thank you all and a big HELLO to everybody in the list!
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