Hi Alwin,

thanks for the links. Do you mean VLAN tagging on trunk ports or completely
separated, untagged, dedicated ports?

ps: I forgot to ask about the jumbo frames. Should I enable them?

Thanks,
Szabolcs

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Alwin Antreich <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Szabolcs,
>
> On 10/25/2016 04:07 PM, Szabolcs F. wrote:
> > Hi Alwin,
> >
> > the Cisco 4948 switches don't have jumbo frames enabled. Global Ethernet
> > MTU is 1500 bytes. Port security is not enabled.
> >
> > When the issue happens the hosts are able to ping each other without any
> > packet loss.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Alwin Antreich <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Szabolcs,
> >>
> >> On 10/25/2016 12:24 PM, Szabolcs F. wrote:
> >>> Hi Alwin,
> >>>
> >>> bond0 is on two Cisco 4948 switches and bond1 is on two Cisco
> N3K-3064PQ
> >>> switches. They worked fine for about two months in this setup. But last
> >>> week (after I started to have these issues) I powered down one Cisco
> 4948
> >>> and one N3K-3064PQ switch (in both cases the designated backup switches
> >>> were powered down). This is to make sure all servers use the same
> switch
> >> as
> >>> their active link. After that I stopped the Proxmox cluster (all nodes)
> >> and
> >>> started them again, but the issue occurred again.
> >>
> >> Ok, so one thing less to check. How are your remaining switch
> configured,
> >> especially, where the pve cluster is on? Do
> >> they use jumbo frames? Or some network/port security?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I've just added the 'bond_primary ethX' option to the interfaces file.
> >> I'll
> >>> reboot everything once again and see if it helps.
> >>
> >> That's only going to be used, when you have all links connected and want
> >> to prefer a link to be the primary, eg. 10GbE
> >> as primary and 1GbE as backup.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> syslog: http://pastebin.com/MsuCcNx8
> >>> dmesg: http://pastebin.com/xUPMKDJR
> >>> pveproxy (I can only see access.log for pveproxy, so this is the
> service
> >>> status): http://pastebin.com/gPPb4F3x
> >>
> >> I couldn't find anything unusual, but that doesn't mean there isn't.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> What other logs should I be reading?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Alwin Antreich <
> >> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Szabolcs,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/25/2016 10:01 AM, Szabolcs F. wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Alwin,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks for your hints.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On which interface is proxmox running on? Are these interfaces
> clogged
> >>>>> because, there is some heavy network IO going on?
> >>>>> I've got my two Intel Gbps network interfaces bonded together (bond0)
> >> as
> >>>>> active-backup and vmbr0 is bridged on this bond, then Proxmox is
> >> running
> >>>> on
> >>>>> this interface. I.e. http://pastebin.com/WZKQ02Qu
> >>>>> All nodes are configured like this. There is no heavy IO on these
> >>>>> interfaces, because the storage network uses the separate 10Gbps
> fiber
> >>>>> Intel NICs (bond1).
> >>>>
> >>>> Is your bond working properly? Is the bond on the same switch or two
> >>>> different?
> >>>>
> >>>> Usually I add the "bond_primary ethX" option to set the interface that
> >>>> should be primarily used in active-backup
> >>>> configuration - side note. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> What are the logs on the server showing? You know, syslog, dmesg,
> >>>> pveproxy, etc. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Another guess, are all servers synchronizing with a NTP server and
> >> have
> >>>>> the correct time?
> >>>>> Yes, NTP is working properly, the firewall lets all NTP request go
> >>>> through.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Alwin Antreich <
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello Szabolcs,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/24/2016 03:16 PM, Szabolcs F. wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've got a Proxmox VE 4.3 cluster of 12 nodes. All of them are Dell
> >>>> C6220
> >>>>>>> sleds. Each has 2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 CPU and 64GB RAM. I've got
> two
> >>>>>>> separate networks: 1Gbps LAN (Cisco 4948 switch) and 10Gbps storage
> >>>>>> (Cisco
> >>>>>>> N3K-3064PQ fiber switch). The Dell nodes use the integrated Intel
> >> Gbit
> >>>>>>> adapters for LAN and Intel PCI-E 10Gbps cards for the fiber network
> >>>>>> (ixgbe
> >>>>>>> driver). The storage servers are separate, they run FreeNAS and
> >> export
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> shares with NFS. My virtual machines (I've made about 40 of them so
> >>>> far)
> >>>>>>> are KVM/QCOW2 and they are stored on the FreeNAS storage. So far so
> >>>> good.
> >>>>>>> I've been using this environment as a test and was almost ready to
> >> push
> >>>>>>> into production.
> >>>>>> On which interface is proxmox running on? Are these interfaces
> clogged
> >>>>>> because, there is some heavy network IO going on?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But I have a problem with the cluster. From time to time the
> pveproxy
> >>>>>>> service dies on the nodes or the web UI lists all nodes (except the
> >> one
> >>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>> actually logged into) as unreachable (red cross). Sometimes all
> nodes
> >>>> are
> >>>>>>> listed as working (green status) but if I try to connect to a
> virtual
> >>>>>>> machine I get a 'connection refused' error. When the cluster acts
> up
> >> I
> >>>>>>> can't do any VM migration and any other VM management (i.e.
> console,
> >>>>>>> start/stop/reset, new VM, etc). When it happens the only way to
> >> recover
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> powering down all 12 nodes and starting them one after another.
> Then
> >>>>>>> everything works properly for a random amount of time: sometimes
> for
> >>>>>> weeks,
> >>>>>>> sometimes for only a few days.
> >>>>>> Another guess, are all servers synchronizing with a NTP server and
> >> have
> >>>>>> the correct time?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I followed the network troubleshooting guide with omping,
> multicast,
> >>>> etc
> >>>>>>> and confirmed I've got multicase enabled and the troubleshooting
> >> didn't
> >>>>>>> return any error. The /etc/hosts file is configured on all nodes
> with
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> proper hostname/IP list of all nodes.
> >>>>>>> When trying to do 'service pve-cluster restart' I get these errors:
> >>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/NXnEf4rd (running pmxcsf manually mounts the
> >>>>>> /etc/pve
> >>>>>>> properly, but doesn't fix the cluster/proxy issue)
> >>>>>>> pvecm status : http://pastebin.com/jsDFkqu3 (I powered down one
> >> node,
> >>>>>>> that's why it's missing)
> >>>>>>> pvecm nodes : http://pastebin.com/1WR8Yij8
> >>>>>>> Corosync has a lot of these in the /var/logs/daemon.log :
> >>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/ajhE8Rb9
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Someone please help!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Szabolcs
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Alwin
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> >>
> >> When that happens, is the network working correctly between hosts?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Alwin
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> http://pve.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/2013-March/005358.html
> https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/constantly-losing-quorum.10755/
>
> I still suspect that there might be a network issue. Maybe it helps to put
> traffic into separate VLANs.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Alwin
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