On 2/8/25 03:43, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
Hi Elena,
I have already responded on Discourse:
https://discuss.python.org/t/wiki-python-org-access-to-data-dump-of-
contents/79878/3
If you want to become an editor of the wiki, please tell us you wiki
user name. You could then help improve pages.
On 08.02.2025 03:00, Elena Williams via pydotorg-www wrote:
Hi,
This is following up and duplication (and extension) of the question
on the forum https://discuss.python.org/t/wiki-python-org-access-to-
data-dump-of-contents/79878 .
Posting here on advice of Chris Angelico (Rosuav).
I’m wondering if there’s an accessible dump of the data of
wiki.python.org <http://wiki.python.org>?
Unlike many content management systems, MoinMoin does not use a
"database" that you would dump in that sense, but rather a
filesystem-based storage scheme. That's moderately easy to transfer as
you can just unpack a tarball made of the data directory. Whether such a
thing exists, is considered shareable, or even whether it's any more use
than just wandering around the wiki using a web browser is questionable
(personally, I have No Idea). MoinMoin's own docs have something on the
storage layout:
https://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Storage
Personal opinion entirely: the way people interact with online media
evolves, and the wiki seems to be losing (or perhaps it's "has lost")
relevance just kind of organically, as has happened with mailing lists,
with usenet newsgroups, etc. There are still people who prefer older
ways and find the new ones less friendly to their familiar usage
patterns (I'm trying to head off a storm of complaints here - I happen
not to be particularly fond of "forum software" either, to cite the case
of python-dev list -> discuss.python.org). Not sure how much work
should be done to try to give the wiki a "new lease on life" to use your
expression, if today's readers don't prefer this form. After all, even
StackOverflow is starting to lose relevance as a resource.
Pages that get any kind of regular attention are mostly resource lists -
editors, IDEs, training, books, user groups, consultants, web
frameworks, etc. and these seem to be good cases for retaining in a
community-curated place. Things that are more in the nature of
"documentation" have a risk of being poorly written, out of date,
littered with links that no longer work (and sometimes the sites linked
to have been taken over by {scam,spam)mers who serve up some less than
desirable content).
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