On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:44:02AM -0700, zunzun wrote:
> On Oct 26, 8:42 am, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Actually not. But I'm a bit tired of voicing my opinion and I can
> > imagine that others may be tired of my opinion either.
> 
> I am an Ubuntu user and was disappointed to learn that
> the recent release of Gutsy (7.10) did not have the
> current version of Pylons, even as the 7.10 beta sat
> there without an update.  To me personally, if the current
> version of Pylons is X, then I should be able to bring
> it in using apt-get.  If not, then to me personally
> Pylons version X is not really the current version.

Creating a Debian/Ubuntu stable release is a time-consuming process. The
release teams do a general "freeze" of packages to do their QA tests. No
new packages are allowed in unless there is a compelling reason (like
security or stability fixes that would close a high priority bug). So
at the time of the release you will get software that will be weeks old.

The focus of "stable" releases lies in reliability. You don't have to
touch anything but get security updates for the period of the stable
release. That's great for workstations and servers. Although I think
that Ubuntu's 6 month cycle is already too quick for most. Before
rolling out new versions in companies you will want to test all your
applications. That's okay every 2-4 years but you don't want to do that
every half year.

Anyway... you can choose "unstable" and have the up-to-date packages.
You could even stay with the "stable" branch and use "APT pinning" to
just update the Pylons-related packages to the unstable versions. Which
one you use depends on your preference. If you accept breakage of your
system but want to play with newest versions that's up to you. If you
stay on "stable" you can apt-get all you want - the "stable" branch
won't change except for security patches.

> As Pylons becomes more popular this issue becomes more glaring - in my
> opinion.

Not quite. The packages are there - even in Ubuntu. You just have to use
them.

 Christoph


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