On 10/26/07, zunzun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 26, 8:42 am, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actually not. But I'm a bit tired of voicing my opinion and I can > > imagine that others may be tired of my opinion either.
Your opinion is fine, I've just been burned by Debian-unstable a couple times and had to reinstall my system, especially when something centeral like libc or X or /etc/nsswitch.conf changes. Then there are packages that depend on something not available yet, or depend on themselves.... As for making debs oneself, that's a bigger learning curve than I want to invest time in. (Why do I have to create a PGP key to sign my package? Nobody except me will be using it!) There are programs like debhelper that do the work for you, but then you're at the mercy of some mysterious and magical program that you're not really sure what it's doing. Setuptools has its own problems. If you install several packages that each have lots of dependencies, you end up with package soup. It doesn't uninstall. But you can keep these problems manageable by using virtualenv et al -- just delete the whole sandbox if you have problems, spend 15 minutes building a new one (you've got all your dependencies listed in your app's setup.py, right?), and you're ready to go. > I am an Ubuntu user and was disappointed to learn that > the recent release of Gutsy (7.10) did not have the > current version of Pylons, even as the 7.10 beta sat > there without an update. To me personally, if the current > version of Pylons is X, then I should be able to bring > it in using apt-get. If not, then to me personally > Pylons version X is not really the current version. > > As Pylons becomes more popular this issue becomes > more glaring - in my opinion. No, because Pylons will become more stable so it won't matter if you have a version that was released a year ago. The only reason we're having these problems now is we're using zero-point releases. Unfortunately the tools we want to use -- Pylons, SQLAlchemy, ToscaWidgets, etc -- are still immature. But SQLAlchemy 0.4 is relatively stable now and has some good forethought put into it, so it's getting closer. Unfortunately 0.4 didn't make Ubuntu 7.10's release cycle. -- Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
