You all might as well be arguing which is the superior OS. It doesn't matter.
Apple's OS's arguably have been superior to anything MS has ever put out. Back in the day, for a very brief period, Apple was the dominate player because first they shipped with BASIC preinstalled in ROM. They maintained momentum because everyone was writing educational software for the platform. MS zoomed past Apple once the PC became more integral to daily life and "productivity" software became more important. Now, Apple is starting to turn things around because their Internet-centric and music stuff "just works". The point is that everything is about the applications. People don't care about which is coded to a higher standard, is more secure, has better documentation, or slicker produced marketing campaign. They buy a particular PC (or use a particular framework) because it allows them to do something that the others don't. If you want Pylons adoption to take off, a subset of the people treading this thread ought to pool their efforts and develop a killer Pylons-based application. Maybe target phpBB, or produce an awesome wiki package or bug tracker. Or even better: an open-source e- commerce platform (every single one out there sucks). Give them a reason to abandon PHP, not just platitudes. When you've got a 100,000 people using a Pylons-based app, interest in Pylons itself will naturally follow. On Jul 19, 5:11 pm, Iain Duncan <[email protected]> wrote: > Taking Ben's suggestion, I just went ahead created a new thread. > > Mike Orr said: > """ > I have started a Talking Points wiki page to gather the essential > points. Please add anything that's missing. > > http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscommunity/Talking+Points > """ > > Thanks Mike, what do you and the other core team propose we do from here > with this starting point? It is probably the area where I can most > helpfully contribute to Pylons, as I've done a fair bit of > sales/marketing stuff and as I mentioned, I feel I have a real vested > interest in making sure that clients feel good about the future > viability of Pylons ( and Repoze, Pypes, etc ). > > As cheesy as it sounds ( and we don't have to call it that ), I think we > need a clear "Pylons Vision Statement". The purpose and future goals of > Pylons distilled into a few very clear sentences that help separate it > from competition, but in a realistic and accurate manner. IMHO, I > believe this has been one the main problems for TG, no real clear vision > on what the framework was trying to provide and for whom. Some wanted it > to be a django-competitor, others something different, and that has been > an elephant in the room for too long now. > > iain --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
