Hello,

I want to chip in :) I'm also working on mako port of deform
templates.
Here is my clone of Joe's repo https://github.com/kozog/deform_mako

I would appreciate some comments :)

-- Krzysiek

On 24 Cze, 23:14, Joe Dallago <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just wanted to mentioned that I started the project as mentioned above
> athttps://github.com/jayd3e/deform_mako.  If you find yourself
> converting one of the chameleon templates in deform in the near future
> please add it to that repo.
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> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Matt Feifarek <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Chris McDonough <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> It satisfies some people entirely, and other people very poorly.  The
> >> folks it satisfies poorly tend to be people who need to do very
> >> layout-intensive "retail" forms with lots of irregular styling and
> >> arbitrary layout.  They don't like it because it often it requires that
> >> they write Deform templates.  This is a large percentage of people.
>
> > Hmm. Thanks for the high-level perspective, Chris.
> > I'll weigh in; it was my question that started this.
> > As-is, I can't use Deform out-of-the-box. I'm willing to invest some work to
> > make it work for me, of course, but its not flexible enough on output, as
> > you acknowledge, for a large percentage of people. I don't think that my
> > needs are particularly irregular or layout-intensive, fwiw.
> > Styling forms sucks; and don't get me wrong, deform is a welcome tool in the
> > pyramid arsenal. And the default templates including support for "required"
> > styling and-so-on are completely up to par for markup completeness,
> > standards, etc.
> > But my needs are not advanced or special... in my opinion. Having
> > good/logical css-selector access to the html-elements and their containing
> > elements is necessary for my real-world work, call it 'retail', sure. And
> > the containing html as-is precludes simple things like 2-column forms. (I
> > expect it's possible through some clever use of float styles and re-ordering
> > the schema to zip left-right, left-right, left-right rather than
> > left-left-left right-right-right.)
> > It seems like a logical help for a "large percentage of people" would be to
> > let the widget markup stay as-is, which is deliberate and full-featured, but
> > over-ride the markup for the form object itself... letting the fields
> > slug-in their buckets of markup in a loop or a mapping. I think this will
> > get us 95% of the way there, except for *really* picky layouts, where the
> > number of spaces between the <label> and the <input> might matter or
> > something.
> > I'm so ignorant with ZPT that I don't even know if the given form.pt can be
> > easily modified, but I expect so. If I can make this work, I could make a
> > recipe for the cookbook or whatever.
>
> >> If the next question is "what would it take to...", the answer is "I
> >> don't know".  I haven't had much occasion to think about it, and won't
> >> soon (delta sponsored work entering the equation).
>
> > Maybe those of us who have expressed an interest in this aspect of deform
> > can come up with an answer to this question...
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