On Dec 13, 6:55 am, Mike Orr <[email protected]> wrote: > Pyramid is a mid-level framework like Pylons. For a > lightweight framework, see web.py, Aspen, Quixote, Flask, Werkzeug, or > several others. Pyramid's focus is on being scalable, both down and > up. You can make a Pyramid application and launcher in a single script > file. Or you can build an elaborate full-stack framework on top of > Pyramid, or use an off-the-shelf one. With Pyramid there are multiple > ways to do it, but they are all interoperable. Our goal is not to > force everyone to a mid-level framework, but to provide such good > building blocks that future high-level frameworks choose Pyramid as a > foundation. > > -- So it's a perfect tool for writing a framework :) Lightweight in my understanding means few features, mostly glue code. Just like Pyramid. All other meaty, but nonetheless important features, are meant to be chosen by a developer using that framework, and plugged in. For example, AFAIK Pyramid has no Form/validation subsystem in its core, or even an "official" plug-in that it endorses. Through trial and error, you have to just pick the missing part from the plethora of what's available, that would suit you functionally and esthetically. Maybe in the long run this would make you a more savvy, professional developer. But you'll have to agree with me, that if our goal is to build bigger, less buggy programs, we're gonna have to abstract from smaller details, use bigger bricks, so to speak. That's why people have chosen C, not assembly to write most parts of a larger OS; PHP, Perl or Python over C for web work, Frameworks over plain PHP, Perl or Python to facilitate building even larger programs. And that's because a human, however smart he or she is, cannot hold all the miniscule details in his head. People can see the bigger picture more clearly. So unless there's a larger framework built on top of Pyramid, as it is now the learning curve of getting the needed tools and do some CRUD/DB/auth/form edit/add, lists/pagination with some custom functionality - is pretty slow.
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