On Dec 14, 12:55 am, Michael Merickel <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:29 PM, rihad <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I totally agree. But this comes at a cost: you have to be nearly just
> > as proficient and experienced as its authors to appreciate its full
> > power.
>
> Actually it just means you have to read the documentation to use it. You
> can't just sit down and magically write a blog in 5 minutes while not
> caring about where the forms, data, sessions, auth, etc are coming from.
> You'll need to read the docs eventually anyway, but to use something that
> isn't full stack, you usually have to read the docs first.

Actually I've spent a few days to read all the docs to get as much
info as possible (http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/
1.3-branch/), and the SQLalchemy wiki tutorial before attempting to
start a project I had on my mind. But I still wasn't sure which high-
quality extension to pick to generate forms, validate the data etc.,
at least not until I knew that the author of Pyramid also wrote
Deform. So I'll be starting from there. But it's a pity if if that
would require me to duplicate data in more than one place (model/form/
validation). Deform docs (http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/
deform/en/latest/basics.html) seem to completely ignore any notion of
models, or data sources, offering users to create a schema anew.
Sometimes some kind of coupling is needed.

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