On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 21:51 -0800, rihad wrote:
> On Dec 14, 12:55 am, Michael Merickel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:29 PM, rihad <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I totally agree. But this comes at a cost: you have to be nearly just
> > > as proficient and experienced as its authors to appreciate its full
> > > power.
> >
> > Actually it just means you have to read the documentation to use it. You
> > can't just sit down and magically write a blog in 5 minutes while not
> > caring about where the forms, data, sessions, auth, etc are coming from.
> > You'll need to read the docs eventually anyway, but to use something that
> > isn't full stack, you usually have to read the docs first.
> 
> Actually I've spent a few days to read all the docs to get as much
> info as possible (http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/
> 1.3-branch/), and the SQLalchemy wiki tutorial before attempting to
> start a project I had on my mind. But I still wasn't sure which high-
> quality extension to pick to generate forms, validate the data etc.,
> at least not until I knew that the author of Pyramid also wrote
> Deform. So I'll be starting from there. 

Great.

> But it's a pity if if that
> would require me to duplicate data in more than one place (model/form/
> validation). Deform docs (http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/
> deform/en/latest/basics.html) seem to completely ignore any notion of
> models, or data sources, offering users to create a schema anew.
> Sometimes some kind of coupling is needed.

You are responsible for supplying that coupling by generating a Deform
schema from a SQLAlchemy schema.  It's likely that someone (maybe you
even) will eventually create a generic package for doing that schema
generation; one does not exist now.

- C


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