my .02ยข is this:

App Developers like features like 'Globals'.  It's something that is 
familiar-from, and present-in many other frameworks.

Granted, pyramid is a low-level framework - and one that a more 'webmonkey' 
friendly framework might be built upon itself.  But those frameworks are 
likely to end up implementing those features themselves... both in bad 
ways, and in many numerous different ways.  If pyramid can find a way to 
pull it off correctly, it would be great.

Rails didn't succeed because it was a "great framework", its success is 
largely do to it being usable-by and appealing-to really bad developers ( i 
mean really awful ones ).  PHP got to be ubiquitous and installed on every 
platform, by just doing a shoddy job implementing everything, so even the 
worst developers flocked to it.  People I've been introduced to by 
recruiters as "Top Django Pros!" commanding 160k salaries, have been robots 
that barely know python.  

I loved pylons, I love pyramid.  I only get to code about 20% of my time, 
and love being able to work in them, because they're implemented in a way 
that really resonates with how I like to work.  The problem though, is that 
I'm usually running operations, tech or product at a company -- not 
implementing it.  Having to source people to execute on goals is a pain.

I understand why "technically" some things might not be right or ideal, and 
why they shouldn't be done -- but sometimes the best route for adoption and 
continued health isn't to do the "right" thing.

sorry for ranting on this.
/j




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