On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 20:16 -0800, Jonathan Vanasco wrote: > my .02ยข is this: > > > App Developers like features like 'Globals'. It's something that is > familiar-from, and present-in many other frameworks. > > > Granted, pyramid is a low-level framework - and one that a more > 'webmonkey' friendly framework might be built upon itself. But those > frameworks are likely to end up implementing those features > themselves... both in bad ways, and in many numerous different ways. > If pyramid can find a way to pull it off correctly, it would be > great. > > > Rails didn't succeed because it was a "great framework", its success > is largely do to it being usable-by and appealing-to really bad > developers ( i mean really awful ones ). PHP got to be ubiquitous and > installed on every platform, by just doing a shoddy job implementing > everything, so even the worst developers flocked to it. People I've > been introduced to by recruiters as "Top Django Pros!" commanding 160k > salaries, have been robots that barely know python. > > > I loved pylons, I love pyramid. I only get to code about 20% of my > time, and love being able to work in them, because they're implemented > in a way that really resonates with how I like to work. The problem > though, is that I'm usually running operations, tech or product at a > company -- not implementing it. Having to source people to execute on > goals is a pain. > > > I understand why "technically" some things might not be right or > ideal, and why they shouldn't be done -- but sometimes the best route > for adoption and continued health isn't to do the "right" thing. > > > sorry for ranting on this. > /j
It's fine. Nobody can take away your right to rant! That said, nothing is going to change in Pyramid itself with respect to making things that are currently local into globals while I still walk upright and breathe. Locals can be turned into globals. Globals cannot be turned into locals. Cope! ;-) - C -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en.
