On 09/01/2013 12:24 AM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
I think of the QuickTour as an exec summary. I've gone through similar
overviews in other frameworks/projects/etc been instantly in love, or
will summarily dismiss it. Why? Because some overviews make it seem
like you only have one option/method of getting something done ( which
is true for many application libraries ). So while it's nice to show
that you can easily do xyz in pyramid using abc... I think it's really
important to underscore that this is just an example, and point to docs
that show a range of other options. (deployment, databases, etc)
In the MVC realm, I do think its important to note that Pyramid holds
true to this "style" or "concept" or application design. It's not
important to get across the peculiarities of how pyramid fits in -- but
that its similar with prevailing approaches, there's a strong separation
of code, and anyone with experience in MVC or compatible approaches will
feel right-at-home. The folks who look at the quicktour will probably
be wondering if its more like Django or Rails than web.py; or PHP/ASP vs
CakePHP (or whatever library).
My $.02 (which is worth about that much): I think if folks can't parse
that it's "MVC" from the examples, then they probably don't care one way
or another because they haven't yet used any of the things you point out
above, and as a result, I wouldn't dwell on it much. If they like what
they see in the quickstart, they'll read the intro chapter, which does
talk about "MVC".
And furthermore, what framework isn't "MVC" these days? I find it kind
of hard to believe that there's an untapped wellspring of developers
that are currently using raw PHP/ASP; it's been almost 10 years since
Rails came out, and if these folks don't know about "MVC" frameworks
now, they aren't likely to. I think this marketing point was relevant 5
years ago, but not so much today.
- C
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