On 09/02/2013 12:40 AM, Roberto Guerra wrote:
Sorry, but I don't think any server-side web framework is MVC. People
that ask about are generally just using buzz terms like SOA, Web
Services, MVC, etc without understanding the concepts. The javascript
front-end frameworks are more MVC than the server-side frameworks.
100% agreed (I put "MVC" in quotes because I agree).
As for the Quick Tour, I'm still a newbie, and found myself overwhelmed
with the documentation when I started a year ago. It is still very
difficult to digest and the only way I've figured things out is by
diving into it head first. For example, class-based views, I still don't
grok it. If you are coming from Rails, for example, you can have
multiple routes inside a 'class view', but in Pyramid it appears that
you can only have one route per class view. At least that is what I've
understood just recently, but it is still unclear from the docs. The
Quick Tour doesn't help in clearing this up. Would be useful if it were
a little more explicit about this.
I wish we could be clearer about it, but I'm not sure how.
Views don't "have" routes, for better or worse. A route points to one
or more views (usually just one). View classes are just a convenient
way of grouping view functions together really. The only difference is
really the way you access the request. You can use two functions:
@view_config(route_name='route1')
def myview(request):
... access to request via request parameter ...
@view_config(route_name='route2')
def myview(request):
... access to request via request parameter ...
Or you can use two methods of the same class:
class MyViews(object):
def __init__(self, request):
self.request = request
@view_config(route_name='route1')
def myview(self):
... access to request via self.request ...
@view_config(route_name='route2')
def myview(self):
... access to request via self.request ...
Or you can use two methods of the same class:
class MyViews(object):
def __init__(self, request):
self.request = request
@view_config(route_name='route1')
def myview(self):
... access to request via self.request ...
Or you can use two different classes:
class MyViews2(object):
def __init__(self, request):
self.request = request
@view_config(route_name='route2')
def myview(self):
... access to request via self.request ...
Suggestions to help make
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/1.5-branch/narr/viewconfig.html#view-config-placement
clearer would be useful.
- C
On Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:31:24 PM UTC-6, Chris McDonough wrote:
On 09/01/2013 02:24 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
> Especially since, doesn't Rails have MVC frameworks now? I know
> they've been backporting some things from the Python frameworks.
>
AFAIK, Rails always "had MVC" and was the tip of the "MVC" spear. It
made the term "MVC" popular in relation to web frameworks (as wrong as
the term was).
- C
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