On 1/25/14 at 2:05 PM, [email protected] (wilk) pronounced:

On 24-01-2014, Thomas Grzybowski wrote:
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Oh - I did not know that we had 1-5-branch tutorials, a mistake. I will take your advice and start clean again using the up-to-date tutorial.
Thanks,
Tom

I don't see the main page of documentation very clear also.

When we install with pip install pyramid the v 1.5a come, then on the main page if we don't read to the end of each line we see

latest
pyramid 1.5
pyramid 1.4
...
pyramid dev

So we click on latest...

I think stable and dev could be more clear on this page, like with the stamp "risky". Maybe even with a little warning : if you installed with pip you will have this one.

For example with 1.5/dev on an other chapter. Or with an explicit 'a': 1.5a...

(1) The documentation always states use easy_install or distribute, and usually either omits pip or advises against its use.

(2) The naming convention of documentation is a little clumsy, but that's a RTD "feature".
https://docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/canonical.html?highlight=latest

Pyramid docs have numbered branches (1.5-branch, 1.4-branch, etc.) and a branch named "master".

The canonical URL of the docs is mapped to the stable release, currently 1.4-branch, which has the URL slug "latest". It's an arbitrary label, and I would call it misleading. Personally I think it should be labeled "stable", and I would lobby the wonderful folks at RTD to change that convention.

The URL for the "master" branch always maps to the development, and most current, branch of the docs, currently "1.5-branch". Note that English typically defines "latest" as "most current", whereas RTD defines "latest" as "stable release". This is where much of the confusion arises.

To summarize, as of today:

"latest" = "1.4-branch" = stable release
"master" = "1.5-branch" = development release

When development of the next release of Pyramid starts, then it will shift:

"latest" = "1.5-branch" = stable release
"master" = "1.6-branch" = development release

(3) I don't know what you mean by "main page". URLs are better, and remove ambiguity. However, I think you mean this:
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/en/latest/docs/pyramid.html#main-documentation
wherein we have attempted to summarize what happens in (2) above.

(4) Finally, and most importantly, if you complain about the docs, then you should submit a pull request and do something about it. Help improve the docs to make them clearer.

--steve

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Steve Piercy, Soquel, CA

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