On 25-01-2014, Steve Piercy wrote:
> On 1/25/14 at 2:05 PM, [email protected] (wilk) pronounced:
>
>>On 24-01-2014, Thomas Grzybowski wrote:
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>>>Oh - I did not know that we had 1-5-branch tutorials, a 
>>>mistake.  I will take your advice and start clean again using 
>>>the up-to-date tutorial.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom
>>
>>I don't see the main page of documentation very clear also.
>>
>>When we install with pip install pyramid the v 1.5a come, then 
>>on the main page if we don't read to the end of each line we see
>>
>>latest
>>pyramid 1.5
>>pyramid 1.4
>>...
>>pyramid dev
>>
>>So we click on latest...
>>
>>I think stable and dev could be more clear on this page, like 
>>with the stamp "risky". Maybe even with a little warning : if 
>>you installed with pip you will have this one.
>>
>>For example with 1.5/dev on an other chapter. Or with an explicit 'a': 1.5a...
>
> (1)  The documentation always states use easy_install or 
> distribute, and usually either omits pip or advises against its use.

Where is this advise against pip ? (easy_install pyramid alone will 
install 1.5 also isn'it ?)

>
> (2)  The naming convention of documentation is a little clumsy, 
> but that's a RTD "feature".
> https://docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/canonical.html?highlight=latest
>
> Pyramid docs have numbered branches (1.5-branch, 1.4-branch, 
> etc.) and a branch named "master".
>
> The canonical URL of the docs is mapped to the stable release, 
> currently 1.4-branch, which has the URL slug "latest".  It's an 
> arbitrary label, and I would call it misleading.  Personally I 
> think it should be labeled "stable", and I would lobby the 
> wonderful folks at RTD to change that convention.
>
> The URL for the "master" branch always maps to the development, 
> and most current, branch of the docs, currently "1.5-branch".  
> Note that English typically defines "latest" as "most current", 
> whereas RTD defines "latest" as "stable release".  This is where 
> much of the confusion arises.
>
> To summarize, as of today:
>
> "latest" = "1.4-branch" = stable release
> "master" = "1.5-branch" = development release
>
> When development of the next release of Pyramid starts, then it 
> will shift:
>
> "latest" = "1.5-branch" = stable release
> "master" = "1.6-branch" = development release
>
> (3)  I don't know what you mean by "main page".  URLs are 
> better, and remove ambiguity.  However, I think you mean this:
> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/en/latest/docs/pyramid.html#main-documentation
> wherein we have attempted to summarize what happens in (2) above.

Yes

>
> (4)  Finally, and most importantly, if you complain about the 
> docs, then you should submit a pull request and do something 
> about it.  Help improve the docs to make them clearer.

Of course, i try...
https://github.com/flibustenet/pylonsrtd/tree/separate_latest_master

-- 
William

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