https://eev.ee/blog/2016/11/23/a-rebuttal-for-python-3/
I will be the first to admit that I at one point looked up to Zed, he was always coming out with some new piece of software, iterating quickly, and sure he used to yell at communities and projects, but in general they actually contained real grievances and issues that should be fixed. At this point I have realised that he is no longer someone to pay attention to, someone to look up to. He has become a has-been, and he is no longer relevant. His increasing tirades against Python 3 have culminated in his most recent blog posting, and it shows he is no longer someone worth paying attention to. I am not surprised that various communities around the web have decided that removing links to his resources is in their best interest moving forward. Bert > On Nov 24, 2016, at 09:21 , Mikko Ohtamaa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Community seems to agree and did not like this behavior. > > On Reddit /r/python and /r/learnpython has removed links to Zed's tutorials. > While Zed is a respected community member and has done a lot of hard work for > making Python available especially for newcomers, he might be have been > little bit too emotional and less rational with the latest blog post. > > -M > > On 24 November 2016 at 17:21, Tom Lazar <[email protected]> wrote: > I can literally +1 *all* of the previous replies. > > Sent from a phone, please excuse the brevity. > > On 24 Nov 2016, at 15:08, John Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> For the last 2 years every project I've worked on has been Python3 only. At >> SurveyMonkey we had ~60 different services and ported all shared code >> between them to Python3 four years ago and started shipping production >> Python3 two years ago. >> >> It is a much better language and it really annoys me working on Python2 >> these days. I think it is ridiculous to even discuss the transition these >> days. Yes, it was horrible but at this point every important library has >> been ported and it is no longer an issue to use Python3. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Chris Rossi <[email protected]> wrote: >> Transition could have been better handled, but Python 3 is great once you >> get over. >> >> Chris >> >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Thierry Florac <[email protected]> wrote: >> Perfectly agree with previous comments! >> I can't estimate the theory behind Turing machines and so on. But on a >> practical point of view, I worked for a long time with Python 2 and Zope 3 >> and had to upgrade all my private packages to use them with Python 3 >> (starting with Python 3.) and Pyramid: the result is according to me much >> cleaner and simpler than it was before, especially for many strings >> management concerns! >> Finally I prefer using Python 3 today, and as all major libraries have now >> been ported to it, compatibility is no more a major concern with it. >> >> Regards, >> Thierry >> >> 2016-11-24 13:03 GMT+01:00 Christoph Zwerschke <[email protected]>: >> Has the same taste as the recent election campaign. Start with extraordinary >> and alarming, but totally false and uneducated claims ("Python 3 is not >> Turing complete", "you can't run Python 2 and Python 3 along with each >> other" etc.) and conclude that we should revert everything and do things in >> the old ways. Same spirit as "climate change is a hoax, let's continue to >> burn fossil fuel" or "who needs diversity, let's continue to make politics >> for straight white male people only as we did in the good old 1950s." >> >> My personal experiences with Python 3 are very positive, I do not perceive >> things as "broken", but moving into the right direction. Many mistakes that >> have been made in the beginning of the transition have already been fixed. >> And I see Python 3.6 as another great step forward. Evolution is good, don't >> worry, don't be stagnant. >> >> -- Christoph >> >> >> Am 24.11.2016 um 12:03 schrieb Vinicius Assef: >> Hey guys. >> >> As Pyramid was the first framework supporting Python 3, what do you >> think about this position? >> >> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/nopython3.html >> >> What are your experiences regarding Python 3 as broken? >> >> -- >> Vinicius Assef >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pylons-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/cce59e52-512c-9fcd-cbb9-832113a6b2c0%40online.de. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.imagesdusport.com -- http://www.ztfy.org >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pylons-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/CAPX_VWAnt%3DGuuS2Vnyh_mybhXb-pscyQqXX9mcJ4ANGfzsShdQ%40mail.gmail.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pylons-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/CAGZ7LV8Cow5%3DFvKU3BR2kgpsKqraxzy_P%2Bgaq7W11Zg1QH0s%2BA%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pylons-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/CAOdFaDXS193WC8y93G%2BT%3DBLa5ATh-aBgqBsusd9obdF%3D%3D1CgiA%40mail.gmail.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pylons-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/421E2BF7-4C58-4143-933B-CE4ACA125D06%40pyfidelity.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > Mikko Ohtamaa > http://opensourcehacker.com > http://twitter.com/moo9000 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pylons-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/CAK8RCUs4sX27xjAcTDZ2hp0kOcXC2vddzmSYM0s2wzf3wknYGw%40mail.gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. 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