On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 09:57, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat., 29 Sep. 2018, 11:19 am Barry Warsaw, <ba...@python.org> wrote: >> >> On Sep 28, 2018, at 17:45, Łukasz Langa <luk...@langa.pl> wrote: >> >> > Do you use NNTP? Like with IRC, you won't find the next generation of core >> > developers on it. And no, there is no support for it in Discourse. >> > >> > We could probably figure something out with Gmane if there's interest. >> >> Yes, I use NNTP to read many of the Python mailing lists. Gmane, even in >> its current state, is fantastic. >> >> I’m all for supporting the next generation of developers, but not >> necessarily at the expense of *decades* of established workflow for current >> developers. Moving to Discourse breaks this and proliferates browser tab >> syndrome. It’s an experiment worth conducting, but I do think it’s a bit >> cavalier to shut down python-committers without further discussion. > > > Especially on the eve of critical governance discussions that will heavily > impact the future of python-dev. > > This is exactly the kind of arbitrary decision making by an insufficiently > representative group that led to us banning making any binding decisions at > language summits: their in-person nature means that they're inherently > exclusive environments that lead to requirements being overlooked and > decisions being made without involving most of the people affected.
Strong +1. We've yet to see most of the governance PEPs, and now it's looking like the people involved in debating them will be hampered by struggling with a new communication medium as well? And the new medium was announced as a completely out of the blue surprise to most of us? Suggestion: We mandate that all discussion on governance must remain on the mailing list, and discussion on Discourse will be banned. That way, no-one who is in the process of switching and doesn't yet feel comfortable with the new medium will feel disenfranchised. Paul _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
