On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:46:04 +0200
Petr Viktorin <encu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2020-04-21 11:01, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:21:21 -0600
> > Eric Snow <ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> Honest question: how many C extensions have process-global state that
> >> will cause problems under subinterpreters?  In other words, how many
> >> already break in mod_wsgi?  
> > 
> > A slightly tricky question is what happens if a PyObject survives
> > longer than the subinterpreter that created it.
> > 
> > For example, in PyArrow, we allow passing a Python buffer-like object
> > as a C++ buffer to C++ APIs.  The C++ buffer could conceivably be kept
> > around by C++ code for some time.  When the C++ buffer is destroyed,
> > Py_DECREF() is called on the Python object (I figure that we would have
> > to switch to the future interpreter-aware PyGILState API -- when will
> > it be available?).   
> 
> 
> > But what happens if the interpreter which created
> > the Python object is already destroyed at this point?  
> 
> That's a good question. What happens today if someone calls Py_Finalize 
> while the buffer is still around?
> 
> I don't think you need to treat *sub*interpreters specially.

The difference is that subinterpreters may have a shorter lifetime than
the main interpreter.  Also, we're currently using a global memory
allocator, so simple operations may work until the process dies.

Regards

Antoine.

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