On 09.10.2020 15:28, Christian Heimes wrote:
On 09/10/2020 04.04, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote:
I don't see the point of requiring to "write an apology", especially
*before a 12-month ban*. If they understand that their behavior is
wrong, there's no need for a ban, at least not such a long one; if they
don't, they clearly aren't going to write it, at least not now (they
might later, after a few weeks or months, having cooled down and thought
it over). So all it would achieve is public shaming AFAICS. Same issue
with the threat of "zero tolerance policy" -- it's completely
unnecessary and only serves to humiliate and alienate the recipient.
I have been the victim of Stefan's CoC violations on more than one
occasion. He added me to nosy list of a ticket just to offend and
humiliate me. For this reason I personally asked the SC to make a
sincere apology a mandatory requirement for Stefan's reinstatement as a
core dev.
As a requirement for _reinstatement_ , it does make sense.
I would have been fine with a private apology. However Stefan has also
verbally attacked non-core contributors. In one case another core dev
and I contacted the contribute in private to apologize and ensure that
the contributor was not alienated by Stefan's attitude. Therefore it
makes sense that the SC has requested a public, general apology.
Why are you more concerned with the reputation of a repeated offender
and not with the feelings of multiple victims of harassment? As a victim
of Stefan's behavior I feel that an apology is the first step to
reconcile and rebuild trust.
Christian
--
Regards,
Ivan
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