On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 at 03:51, Kyle Stanley <aeros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Eric V. Smith wrote: > > In addition, I find it hard to believe someone couldn't find a sponsor > > for a well-written PEP. I'm happy to sponsor such a PEP, even if I think > > it will be rejected. Rejected PEPs serve a useful purpose, too, if only > > to point to when the same issue comes up in the future. > > Do most of the other core developers also share this perspective? Even > though PEPs were not intended to be intimidating, they definitely can be > for those who are less familiar with the process. I can imagine that many > people would think that a "sponsor" would mean fully convincing someone > to be completely on board with their idea.
Personally, my position is a bit more nuanced. I'm happy enough to sponsor a PEP, but most people's "PEP ideas" are actually still insufficiently well thought out to be worth a PEP, and typically my first comment as a sponsor would be "you don't need a sponsor yet, you need to refine your proposal a lot first". However, from the way a lot of threads on python-ideas go, it's clear that a lot of people aren't really aware of how much work is needed to get a proposal to the point where it's ready for a PEP (and when they get feedback to that effect from the list, they get frustrated at the "negative feedback"). So while I'm happy enough to sponsor a (well-written) PEP, I'm not anywhere near as willing to mentor someone in how to develop a proposal to the point where it's ready for submission as a PEP (because I simply don't have the time). And people tend not to appreciate the difference between those two tasks. Paul _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/AYMID2BLLKOUXQA765RDBHPCIJHMSMK6/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
