On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM,  <s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>    Barry> I agree that I see no reason why python-mode.el can't borrow
>    Barry> liberally from it. :)
>    >>
>    >> OTOH, if it works with XEmacs, why not just declare victory and go
>    >> home?
>
>    Barry> Have you tried it?  I'd be pretty surprised if it worked better,
>    Barry> since the Emacs developers haven't been very proactive about
>    Barry> supporting XEmacs.
>
> I haven't tried it though I suspect you're right.  However, how in the hell
> else are we ever going to reduce the number of different Python modes?  So,
> today the new python.el maintainer seems happy.  Assume GNU Emacs sucks it
> up.  Two years from now the maintainer gets cranky, has a kid, I don't know,
> but something causes him to stop maintaining the code.  You wind up with
> something which causes yet another fork.  Will the GNU Emacs people ever
> accept XEmacs compatibility fixes?

>From current conversations on the emacs ml it looks likely that this
new mode could replace current python.el.  The idea is to replace the
current mode's functionality bit by bit.

Though I haven't tried the new mode, it claims pdbtrack support (which
is probably the most compelling feature of python-mode.el to me).

Moving forward, some options would be:

* patch the new mode so it works with xemacs
* patch the new code to pull in any missing python-mode.el functionality

The latter could be seen as a merge that would give a one true mode
with superset functionality.  It would also get python-mode
effectively into the emacs distribution (ending the recurring "when
will copyright assignment be given to the FSF threads seen every so
often".

>
> It's ridiculous.  I don't want to be a developer of this stuff.  I just want
> it to work.  Maybe it's just time to face the music and conclude that I
> should switch away from XEmacs.  *sigh*

I think most Python users agree with you (that we just want stuff to
work).  But to be honest emacs kind of requires some tweaking to your
needs ;)

WRT switching from XEmacs, what is your reason for using it?  Curious
minds want to know. :)

cheers,
-matt
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