On Thursday 11 May 2006 02:16, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
> >    Archive of presentations and hand outs
> >    Tutorials
> >    Glossary
> >    RSS feeds of each section
>
> I'd be happy if we'd get to a point where this is needed. Currently a
> single feed would be enough (or maybe 2 - one for site updates, and
> one for meetings section)

Right.

> > >  * An easy way to edit the content
> >
> > Because Plone includes the web-based visual editor Kupu, the barriers
> > to contribute are lower, there is no new wiki-syntax to learn.  People
> > can add content with tools that look familiar to them.  example:
> > http://plone.org/documentation/whatsnew/2.1/images/kupu.png
> >
> > >  * Easy to join and contribute - login should be optional
> > > * Automatic spam protection, because we don't have time to clean our
> > > site
> >
> > I think that these two go together and that people should have to login
> > to publish on the site.  Requiring login to publish/comment combines
> > with Plone's workflow process to prevent spam very well.
>
> 1) In the current system you already have to login to edit wiki pages.
> This does not help much, because it seems like the spamming-scripts
> already know how to automaticly create new mediawiki logins.

Actually, the MediaWiki login is pretty simplistic and just requires filling 
and submitting an HTML form. What I would really like (and would require some 
code modification) is to have an email handshake before one can edit pages. 

>  Fortunately for me, our mediawiki is enhanced by the efficient
> spam-fighting utility called Shlomi Fish ;-)
>

Well, not just that, but I also enabled the MediaWiki Spam Blacklist utility. 
I periodically fetch the blacklist from the Wikimedia meta-wiki, and I also 
recently started adding URLs we've been spammed with recently to a private 
collection. (So I need not wait for them to be added to Wikimedia's). 

> 2) Note that having to create a login for editing pages is a great
> barrier by itself.
> (and far worse if you have to wait for email confirmation, which might
> sometimes take more than an hour)
>  You can't really expect an occasional reader who stumbled upon our
> site to add her comments/corrections/links/typo-fixes if she has to
> create a special account and password for that.
>  We are *NOT* the only editable site on the web, and most people
> nowadays tend to be a bit (too) paranoid and would avoid having to
> "keep track" of which sites they have passwords for.
>

Hmmm... this may be a case against an email handshake.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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