In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerome
Grimbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>} >} >>The problem is that we don't have a logo to represent
>} >} >>QDOS or SMSQ/E.
>} >} >>..
>
>} >} >>     The main QL screen.
>} 
>} Personally ... I think still think that the QL screen is rather boring
>} for a logo.
>} 
>} We need a good simple image, which will also help to take us forward.
>} 
>} Linux has the Penguin, as has been mentioned.  Perl has the Camel.
>} 
>} I don't believe that we need to confine ourselves to 'animal' images.
>
>So, we have also:
> - plant (root, leaf, flower, tree, whole,...)
> - abstract 2D (like the QL screen, traditionnal flags)
> - minerals/inanimate (rock, mountains, river, valley, quartz cristal)
> - human figure (with a specific aspect and specific clothes)
> - abstract 3D (cube, sphere, icosahedron, tubular construct)
> - common object (umbrella, table, bowler hat, key)

Umm ... a very good list.

Personally I just don't have the time to transform the ideas into a
visual example.
> 
>} >The penguin is a kind of teddy-bear : it attracts sympathy.
>} >We need something like that too.
>} >
>
>} >
>} >simple: not necessary (but clearly distinguishable is mandatory)
>} >direct: No (the penguin is not direct from Linux !)
>} >promotion: Yes
>} >
>} >} The QL now hasn't got this advantage, so a logo will need to reflect
>} >} both the 'history' of the QL and the coming 'future'.  No easy task.
>} >
>} >The logo(main screen) may represent the history, we need to find
>} >a mascot to represent the future. The mascot could then display the logo,
>} >or have a pool with the flag-logo, or whatever.
>} >
>} >A simple logo is a good thing for the webdesigner which has no great
>} >graphic tools...
>} 
>} Yes, yet a good logo is always reproduced at many different sizes, so it
>} has to have accurate detail.
>
>It's look like we have the same problem than the POV-logo.
>(OT: POV is a short cut for Povray, a raytracer ( http://www.povray.org ),
> a competition for a logo recently occured at 
>http://rjs.mobilixnet.dk/logo/logo.html )
>And they are now asking if they need a mascot too...
>But at least, in the POV-logo case, they had some real entries
> (given that most POVers are artists-oriented, that was easy for them).
>)
>
>They asked for a small/big, colour/b&w entry (so 4 variations).
>
>} >} 
>} >} PS - Did Jerome get any response on his web site ?
>} >
>} >I initially filled the page with my idea/proposal, but nobody even dare
>} >to submit another picture, or even another idea.(from April to August !)
>} >So, assuming the interest was dropped (even after the long thread on the 
>list)
>} >, when I had to move my website, I did not kept the page.
>} 
>} Ah well ... it seems to have 're-ignited' again in this discussion :-)
>
>Yes, it's look like... 
>
>I will wait until next week before doing a web page for a logo/mascot
>competitions... if there is still traffic on that subject.
>
>I think I will take the pov-rules... directly!

Umm ... I may pay the site a visit :-)

-- 
Malcolm Cadman

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