In message <00a401c287fe$d067c620$4f6887d9@asusone>, dndsystems1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
You seem to deliberately want to misunderstand the concepts here. Your 'patched version' made my Q40 crash. It was, therefore, not fully correct either. Had you taken the trouble to become resellers and had you wanted to you could have submitted the patched code to Wolfgang and had it tested and incorporated into the system. You did none of these things and you made no attempt to find out why it crashed my Q 40 at Hove. 'It works on the machine I am selling so that is all I need to know' is not good enough if you are to lay any claim to be part of the system. There have been many occasions where users have reported things to me that crashed on their system and worked on mine but I always made the effort to try to find out why. This is called support. If you patch a version of SMSQ/E and distribute it will get out to other systems because we are all in communication (mostly) and other people will try it out on other machines and then......chaos. You could be saying there has to be a version of SMSQ/E specially for the Q60. If so you must discuss this with Wolfgang.D&D, according to their adverts, are selling a patched version. This is precisely what Wolfgang is striving to avoid.You're not still on about that are you, I can't belive it. Look at it like this there are 2 versions of 2.98, the first was flawed, the second was fixed. The second version makes the Q60 behave like other platforms _adding_ to uniformity across platforms. The first version makes the Q60 behave like nothing else because it is wrong.
No version of SMSQ/E for any platform other than QPC2 was created for release at a workshop. TT would never be left alone long enough to do it. There have been tweaks done at workshops but these were not distributed to the general public.As you well know there has been more than 1 version of SMSQ/E with the same version number on a number of occasions. You will have seen new versions created at workshops for some reason but the version number was not incremented, these were probably bug fixes.
The only time SMSQ/E versions did not change with the program was with the QXL and that was a problem TT had with that platform and that platform alone. I find this hard to believe. Maybe the one I got from Jochen at the show was corrupt somehow but I cannot recall this at all.You have supplied different versions of SMSQ/E with the same v. number to customers. I know this from the QL subgroup we used to run, I had the same version of SMSQ/E on my Aurora from Jochen yet when I installed your supplied SMSQ/E on another Aurora owned by one of the group it would not work correctly, not until 2? months had passed and you sent him a repaired/altered/patched version which I installed and hey presto it worked.
All the same version number. This has always happened in our group. I took my master SMSQ/E disk to Jochen years ago with a problem after a recent update and he said "Yes there is a fix", took the disk overwrote it and gave it me back. I asked "Is that a new version then?" he said "No, it has the same version number". I asked "How many different versions of the same number are there". He smiled and replied "Two". It has always been this way. It is perfectly acceptable, this is what happens when something is under development.
Did they have an 'a' after the number perchance.
This is rubbish because Jochen compiles the code himself. If there is a fix for a problem and Jochen has it will have been compiled onto a disk and be ready for a show. He may, of course be waiting for someone to test it......Look at it another way. I travel hundreds of miles to see Jochen at a workshop - in the above example - he says "Yes, there is a fix" and waves a disc at me. "But", he says "You cannot have it, you must wait for a couple of months because that is when the next version will be compiled and released." I say "You're �$%$%^&&* joking, I'm standing in front of you, a fully paid up owner of SMSQ/E and you've got what I need now but your asking me to wait 2 months, $%^&�)( hell fire". "I've travelled a long way for this could I not sway your opinion?"
The situation with the early Aurora was indeed chaotic I agree and I want to avoid a repetition of it. It is possible, therefore, that you ads mislead us when you said 'it has been corrected'Hope you enjoyed that. The point is in the above situation it is bad customer practice, too rigid and generally not nice, although officially correct. SMSQ/E was patched all over the place to get it working the Aurora then eventually well sorted versions would appear, no great fuss. It's just progress during development.
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