Why not make the key a definable hotkey, so that the user can dfine it to
any keystroke they want. This would also bring use of the function to older
programs.

Derek

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Subject: Re: [ql-users] RFC


>
> On 26 Sep 2003 at 0:04, P Witte wrote:
>
> (...)
> > Are you thinking of buffering output sent to each scr/con channel, or
are
> > you thinking of using OCR, as in Qlip, or something else?
>
> and On 25 Sep 2003 at 17:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (...)
> > The prblem comes when you want to highlight an area of text to copy :-)
> >
>
> Whoa there!
>
> This is all much too complicated. This little trick only does the
following: put into the
> stuffer buffer (all of) the characters that have been entered in a
read/edit line trap so
> far.
>
> No OCR, no QLip, no highlighting, no fancy stuff. This is all not needed
because the
> trap "knows" what characters there are.
>
>  Per :
> > I think it is a good idea. Great that you are prepared to do it! Might
it be
> > an idea to add some kind of test for this functionality (eg set a bit on
> > some sysvar), as application programmers may wish to eg provide a
limited
> > functionality on systems that dont support it.
> Do you mean that the application programmer will build this facility into
his program (via
> some special keystroke or menu item?) so that , for example, in QDOS this
can also be
> achieved?
> Well, then it would simply be possible to achive it with 2 different
methods on an
> SMSQ/E system.
>
> (remember, as Marcel rightly points out, the keystroke is trapped anyway,
the
> application doesn't even get it)
>
> > > CTRL-C is, of course, out of the question, as that is used elsewhere.
> >
> > Couldnt this also be an Smsq/e configurable item (Im aware that it is
easy
> > enough to do as a POKE, but..) together with the Hotstuff keys, F10, and
> > anything else that may crop up?
> >
> > Per
> Yes, it could be. Personally, I'm not so sure that it is really such a
good idea, I like the
> idea of systemwide unified keystrokes. Everybody knows not to use CTRL-C
in one's
> applications because it is a fixed system wide keystroke. Same for CTRL F5
for screen
> freeze, or Alt Enter etc....
>
> Some of these may be changeable via POKEs in the sysvars, but in general,
they are
> fairly constant over all systems.
>
> For the new keystroke I'll probably foresee some kind of configuration
item, since I
> realistically can't really know that it will work in all circumstances at
all times....
>
> Rich:
> > Hmm - I had forgotten this  !!  Mind you, as it is only copy into the
current
> > buffer, perhaps the solution would be for the operating system to show
up a
> > pop-up window (under WMAN) to select :
> >
> > 1. Copy current line into buffer
> > 2. Refresh screen
> >
> Again, this is much too complicated. Especially under programs that don't
use the
> Pointer Environmant, you'll get all kinds of problems popping up a WMAN
window in a
> non managed job.
>
> Talking about the specific problem (F10 = shift F5, used as screen refresh
in some
> programs):
>
> These programs do not use the read/edit line trap. They would not benefit
from my little
> extension anyway, and would have no problem with the use of this key.
>
> Wolfgang
>

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