On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 05:19:49PM -0400, Greg Hudson wrote:
> >> ORBS also lists tarpitting people, although as spam relays they are
> >> unsusable, too.
> 
> > Anybody clueful enough to do tarpitting should block relaying.
> 
> There exists sites which do not have a nice block of IP addresses
> which describe all of their valid mail relay users.  For such sites,
> tarpitting is a much better solution than relay blocking.  MIT is one
> of them (many of its mail relay users are customers of random outside
> ISPs), and has had numerous problems with ORBS as a result.

I strongly disagree that tarpitting is a solution to relay abuse. A spammer
will just open more connections, or make sure he stays just under the
threshold.

> > No. You obviously do not see my point. ORBS's job is to list open
> > relays.  It does that, and it's good at it too. It also does not
> > enforce this policy on anybody.
> 
> That's fine, but you personally have been making normative statements
> like "No, don't get used to being listed on ORBS" and the one I quoted
> above.

Yes, and I am fully behind those statements.

Greetz, Peter.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Peter van Dijk [student:developer:madly in love]

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